ŚHRĪ HASAN and ŚHRĪ HUSAYN in the Words of ŚHRĪ MĀTĀJĪ

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"Now, what can I say, you would be surprised, that the Shia sect that started after Muhammad Sāhab, His daughter was Fāṭimah, She was also Ādi Śhakti.
And Her two children were, Hasan and Husayn, back then, when They saw even after the annihilation of the world, the human beings did not understand, then They were born as Buddha and Mahāvīra and They brought the non-violence as religion, and attempted that, 'Maybe with the establishment of non-violence people will achieve Self-realization.' But couldn't do it."

1973-1208 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"After the birth of the daughter of Muhammad Sāhab, as I talked yesterday also, there was beginning of the caste Shia in Islam.
Shia word has been derived from Siyā. The word which come from Siyā became Shia -- Siyā means Sītājī. If you go to UP [Uttar Pradesh, India] then nobody says Sītājī, they say Siyājī, 'Siyā var Rām[a]chandra ki jay.' Everyone takes the name Siyā. She was Sītājī, Ādi Śhakti Herself.
And Her two sons, who were Hasan and Husayn, destroyed many evils. When They ultimately died after getting tried, then in the next birth they thought of establishment of nonviolence, violence led them nowhere.
They were [re]born as Mahāvīr and Buddha to make a new experiment. Experiments do happen. "

1973-1209 Public Program (Hindi), Day 3, Śhrī Dattātreya Jayanti, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"And His daughter Fāṭimah was nobody else but Sītā Jānakī Herself.
And Her two sons, Hasan and Husayn, were nobody else but Lava and Kuśha. They were born again and again: They were born as Mahāvīra and Buddha, and then They were born as Hasan and Husayn.
It is only possible through Sahaja Yoga to realize that this is the Truth, this is the fact. "

1976-0205 Public Program (Vasant Pañchamī), Day 2, Description of Kuṇḍalinī, after Śhrī Viṣhnu Havan, New Delhi, India

"Now, beyond that is God's Realization.
There are three stages to that also, but just now I have told this: the Sat-chit-ānand State.
The God's Realization is the state in which Gautam Buddha and Mahāvīra only rose, and They are settled down here in our brains, both of Them are here, Christ is here.
And these two were not Incarnations: They were born as human beings. They were born to Sītā, as Lav and Kuśh. Then they were born as Buddha and Mahāvīra. Then Ādi Śhakti was Their mother again. Then they were born to Fāṭimah Bi as Hasan and Husayn.
They are both placed here, in your head.
And They are the two milestones you have got, by which you can know what a human being can rise up to that now today They are like Incarnations. Incarnations are beyond, but maybe the gap can be bri... bridged."

1977-0215 Public Program (Hindi + English), Day 2, Sat-chit-ānanda, New Delhi, India

"Now in this Void we have two great entities as well which we know as Chandra [Moon] and Sūrya [Sun]. Moon and Sun are such chakras which reside on these nāḍīs here and here.
On these chakras there are two very great personalities who have been appointed. They are complete embodiment of human beings. They are like humans, in fact are humans. Out of these one is Buddha and one is Mahāvīra.
But if you listen to the whole history of Their lives, then these are two sons which Śhrī Sītā had as Lav and Kuśha who is completely in human form. And after They evolved to the level that They are here as Buddha and Mahāvīra. There also they thought They have reached an extreme of nonviolence because the supports of nonviolence came in and started protecting even mosquitoes and bugs.
Then They again took birth and came at the time of Muhammad. Muhammad was an Incarnation of Śhrī Janaka and His daughter Fāṭimah Bi was also Incarnation of Śhrī Sītā.
Then, as Their sons as Hasan and Husayn, They gave Their life in Karbalāʾ to prove that no kind of extreme is good.
And this thing is Truth or not you can see on your vibrations. If [one thinks that] I am lying, then through your vibrations you would know that not even one single word is a lie here that I am telling you. "

1978-0131 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Void, Heart, Viśhuddhi, Channels, New Delhi, India

"They are all connected. Because Hazarat ʿAlī was the son-in-law of Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Muhammad was the Incarnation of King Janaka. His sons Hasan and Husayn, who were killed in the battle of Karbalā, were no one else but Sītājī's sons Lav and Kuśh, who were later incarnated as Mahāvīr and Buddha."
1978-0201 Public Program (Hindi), Brahma kā Gyān (Knowledge of Brahma) or Mūlādhāra to Viśhuddhi, Āgñyā, and Sahasrāra, 9 Raisina Road, New Delhi, India

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1978-1015 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Zen and Void, Part 1, First Western Seminar, Day 2, Session 2 (during and after tea and coffee), Conference Center, East Hampstead Park (near Wokingham, 60 kms W of London), Berkshire, UK

"Those who are here and Buddha and Mahāvīr are here, sitting on our foreheads. Buddha and Mahāvīr are not someone else, [but] Lav and Kuśh, whom you call, Their names are Lav and Kuśh. They are the ones who take birth in Their world multiple times. They came into the world under the names of Buddha and Mahāvīr.
Consider Them as Incarnations only. They are a special being who take incarnation from humans.
He came into the world and preached non-violence. But His non-violence was not like the Jains, who say, 'Take care of the ants, take care of the mosquitoes.'
So then He said, "Take birth again." I don't know what drama He created, so then He took birth as Hasan and Husayn.
Their mother, who was Sītājī, was also Jānakī, was also Rādhā, She is also called Fāṭimah. And Her place is in the left navel.
Hazarat ʿAlī is also a very significant figure. Without taking His name, the left navel doesn't open. Hazarat ʿAlī. He is the same incarnation of Brahma."

1979-0117 Public Program (Hindi), Day 4, Chakroṃ para Upasthita Devatā (Deities on All Chakras), Gita Mandir Hall, Bharatiya Vidyā Bhavan (3rd floor), 29, Kulapati K.M. Munshi Mārg, Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"But when He [Lord Buddha] saw His disciples doing all stupid things He again took birth, you will be surprised, do you know where? Can you tell? Hasan and Husayn, who were killed in Karbalāʾ were no other than Mahāvīra and Buddha.
But who will tell all this, now who can make you understand this? Now this responsibility has come on Me so I am telling you.
I am telling you this because when your Kuṇḍalinī is awakened, then if your ego and superego are caught up, then you have to take the name of Buddha and Mahāvīra, these are two of the Rudras in Ekādaśha Rudra. These are very great Rudras, and when the Last Judgment will take place, then many more will come, you will know about these two then, you will see that it is difficult to get rid of ego and superego. Then if you are a Hindu, you will have to take the name of Hasan and Husayn, and if you are a Muslim then you have to take the name of Buddha and Mahāvīra. Without these, you cannot get rid of ego and superego, especially ego."

1979-0311 Public Program (English + Hindi), Day 2, Session 2 (evening), On Gāndhī and Collective Consciousness, Gāndhī Bhawan, Delhi University, North Campus, GC Narang Road, Timarpur, New Delhi, India

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1979-0507 Public Program, Sahaja Yoga and Christianity, Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, 4A Castletown Road, London W14 9HE, UK

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1979-0530 Public Program, A Higher Life, A World of Bliss and Joy (The Three Paths of Evolution), Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

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1981-0207 Public Program, Day 3, Introduction to Nābhī and Void, Mavlankar Hall, Constitution Club of India, Vithal Bhai Patel House, Rafi Mārg, Sansad Mārg Area, Behind Reserve Bank of India, New Delhi, India

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1981-1006 Public Program (8th Day of Navarātri), Day 3, The New Age Has Started (From Kṛiṣhṇa to Christ), Venue 2, Unity (Church of Christianity), 2929 Unity Drive, Houston, TX, U.S.A.

"What is important is to cross even this is. So you reach a stage now, after this, you reach a stage where there's ... you knew on Incarnations.
Incarnations are always above this gap.
This gap has been crossed only by two people, Buddha and Mahāvīra, who become Hasan and Husayn. They were the only who could cross, but They were born of Incarnations: They were the children of Incarnations.>br> They were human beings! Just see it: if God wants, He can do anything He likes. So He created two Incarnations of Lav and Kuśh, from ... They were the children of Rāma and Sītā. Then They were born as Buddha and Mahāvīra, and then Hasan and Husayn.
So this is the only two human beings, actually who were the children of an Incarnation, became Incarnations, and They are placed in the body of's the ... Virāṭa, in the center point here, helping with Realization and Salvation."

1981-1126 Public Program, Surrey Hall, Lansdowne Way, Stockwell, Lambeth, London SW8 2DG, UK

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1983-0329 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Hindi), Raṃgavalī Holī Celebrations, Universal Sahaja Yoga Temple, Āśhram, 78 Kṛiṣhṇa Nagar, Safdarjung Enclave, New Delhi, India

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1983-1012 Public Program (7th Day of Navarātri), Day 2, Old Cambridge Baptist Church, 1151 Massachussetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA, U.S.A.

"So, all those Personalities were absolutely divine, but one day Śhrī Rāma, who was an Incarnation of Śhrī Viṣhṇu, and Śhrī Sītā, who was Incarnation of Śhrī Mahālakṣhmī, gave birth, while they were on this Earth, to two children, of whom we can say that they had a Divine Nature as well as human. So, They had special powers, special helps, so that They could become leaders, leaders for human beings. They were named Lava and Kuśha. Lava, after Śhrī Rāma's death, left towards Caucasus, and this is the reason why the population in Russia are called Slavs; Kuśha went to China, and the people around there are called Kuṣhāṇs. [Or tous ceux-là sont des personnalités absolument divines, mais un jour, Śhrī Rāma, qui était une Incarnation de Śhrī Viṣhṇu, et Śhrī Sītā, qui était une Incarnation de Śhrī Mahālakṣhmī, mirent au monde, alors qu'ils étaient sur cette terre, deux enfants, dont nous pouvons dire qu'ils étaient de nature divine autant qu'humaine. En effet, ils avaient des pouvoirs, des aides spéciales, de telle façon qu'ils pouvaient devenir des leaders, des chefs pour les êtres humains. Ces deux enfants furent nommés Lāva et Kuśha. Lava partit après la mort de Śhrī Rāma, vers la Caucase, et c'est pourquoi les peuples de Russie se nomment les Slaves; et Kuśha alla vers la Chine, et le gens ce pays s'appelèrent Kouchanes.]
Those two Incarnations, we will call them Principle of the Disciple. Not the Guru Principle, which also incarnates, but that one is fully of Divine Nature. So, these two incarnate as Disciple Principle. [Ces deux Incarnations, nous Les nommerons Le Principe du Disciple, pas de Principe du Gourou, lequel s'incarne aussi, mais celui-ci est entièrement de Nature Divine. Donc, ceux-là s'incarnent sur cette terre comme Principes du Disciple.]
First, they incarnated, as we say, as Lava and Kuśha, each one being specially assisted by Saint Gabriel and Saint Michel. [Tout d'abord ils s'incarnèrent, nous dirons, comme Lava and Kuśha, chacun est spécialement assisté par Saint Gabriel et Saint Michel.]
These two Incarnations incarnated later as Buddha and Mahāvīra, who came once again as Śhaṅkara [who had been Buddha] and Kabīr [who had been Mahāvīra]. Kahlil Gibran is part of their Incarnations. So was Mārkaṇḍeya, and we can say that our William Blake is part of it. [Ces deux Incarnations s'incarnèrent plus tard comme Bouddha et Mahāvīra, lesquels revinrent à nouveau au sixième siècle de notre èrecomme Śhankara [c'était Bouddha], puis [c'était Mahāvīra]. Kahlil Gilran fait partie de Leurs Incarnations. Mārkaṇḍeya aussi, et on peut dire que notre Mister Blake en fait partie.]
So, they came back as poets, as devotees of God, with an astounding capacity to create songs, music, and to talk about God. [Ainsi Ils sont venus comme poètes, comme dépôts de Dieu, avec une étonnante capacité de créer des chants, de la musique, de parler de Dieu.]
Otherwise they incarnated as Hasan and Husayn, the sons of Fāṭimah, daughter of Muhammad and wife of ʿAlī. [Par ailleurs, Ils se sont incarnés comme Hasan and Husayn, les fils de Fāṭimah, la fille de Mahomet et l'épouse d' ʿAlī.]
So they incarnated so many times on this Earth, those who correspond to the Principle of the Disciple. [Ainsi se sont incarnés tant de fois sur cette terre ceux qui correspondaient au Principe du Disciple.]"

1984-0507 Interview with Michel Sadashiva Cherney for the Sahaja Yoga Magazine in French \textcolor{greeny}{\it L'Attention, Issue 4, Pages 32 to 37}, Āśhram, 9, Allée Du Rocher, Le Raincy (13 kms E of Paris), Île-de-France, France

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1984-0908 Śhrī Mary Mahālakṣhmī Pūjā, Münich, Bavaria, Germany

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1985-0920 Public Program, Memorial Hall, City Hall, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, UK

"There is such a close relationship between Muhammad Sāheb and Nāṇak Sāheb. Nāṇak Sāheb and Śhrī Sītā had a close relationship and this Śhrī Mahāvīr and Śhrī Buddha are closely related. Both were twin brothers, who were the sons of Śhrī Rāma, Lav and Kuśh. Both were born again and again as Hasan, Husayn and came into this world."
1986-1201 Public Program (Hindi), Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

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1988-0402 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Praises for Musicians, after the Evening Program, the day before Easter Pūjā, Tent, Marque, Back Garden, Śhuddhi Camp (now The Hall, Shudy Camps Park), Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, UK

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1988-0609 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Giving Names and the Story of Mārkaṇḍeya, Āśhram, Josef Melichar Gasse 20, Vienna, Austria

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1988-0814 Śhrī Fāṭimah Pūjā, Saint-George (40 kms W of Lausanne), Vaud, Switzerland

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1992-0612 Public Program, Day 2, Royal Albert Hall, Kensington Gore, South Kensington, London SW7 2AP, UK

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1992-1230 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (English + Hindi), before the Evening Program (Santūr Ustād Amjad Alī Khān and family), Kalwa, Thane, Maharashtra, India

"In Sahaj we very much respect and understand Mahāvīrjī and we also accept that He is the Incarnation of Śhrī Bhairavnāth and not only this, [but] He took birth many times and later also came as Hasan and Husayn. In Bible Bhairavnāthjī is addressed as Saint Georg and some refer Him as Saint Michael.
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In Sahaja Yoga we recognize Lord Mahāvīra as the Incarnation of Śhrī Bhairavnāth. He also incarnated as Imam Husayn. Saint Michael is the same who is also called Saint George [the Guardian angel of London] ......"

1993-0404 Śhrī Mahāvīra Jayanti Pūjā (Hindi), New Delhi, India

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1993-0518 Śhrī Fāṭimah Pūjā, You Must Learn to Respect a Woman Who Is Chaste, Mövenpick Hotel, Balmumcu, Barbaros Blv. No:165, 34349 Beşiktaş, Istanbul, Turkey

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1993-0715 Meeting with Ayatollah Dr. Mehdi Rouhani, Conversation and Dinner, Paris, France

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1993-1009 Iranian Public Program, 11301 Olympic Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA, U.S.A.

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1994-1104 Conversation with Turkish Sufi Musicians (Guḍhī Pāḍavā Day), during the Evening Program, the day before Diwālī Pūjā, Istanbul, Turkey

"My father, as I told you, was a scholar of Arabic and Persian -- scholar. And he translated Qur'ān into Hindi language. He was a scholar of Sanskrit. Fourteen, fourteen languages he [unclear].
But he himself said, that, "I don't know why people get these ideas that Muhammad Sāhab created a separate religion."
He was himself a realized Soul. And he had tremendous-s-s respect for Muhammad Sāhsb, for Hazarat ʿAlī, for Fāṭimah, for Hasan, Husayn.
He told ... he told Me all about Islam or how to talk to Islamic people. Because if you tell the Truth, there will be a fatwā on Me."

1994-1112 Public Program, Day 2, Auditorium, Hotel Karim (now closed), Route Touristique Raouad, Gammarth (21 kms NE of Tunis), Tunisia

"Specially, these are the days of your marty[rdo]m. And I know about it, everything, what had happened to Hasan and Husayn. You all have done lot of penance for Them, and are still doing it. But now the time has come for all of you to know that Their sacrifice, Their kurbānī, has been completely fulfilled. After all, what did They want? They wanted whatever Their father, ʿAlī, wanted Them to do, also Their mother Fāṭimah. But we don't know, 'Who They were? What Incarnations They were? What was Their job?'
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No need to feel guilty. You are not the ones who killed Hasan and Husayn, and still, if you feel that Hasan and Husayn should have lived, They can live through your lives. Only thing you have to know: how to become personality, make your personality of Their level. "

2000-0528 Persian Public Program, Iman Cultural Center, Los Angeles, CA, U.S.A.

"Later They were born in Arabia as Hasan and Husayn, the two sons of Fāṭimah, daughter of Muhammad Sāhib. They were murdered in a very violent war at Karbalāʾ. Their death signifies a great sacrifice in the name of religion. It is an indication how people who are extreme in nature take to fanaticism and, in their blindness, kill the very essence of religion that is born in flesh and blood as an Incarnation. This awakening gave a rude shock to the mass of religious human beings of the land, and there ensued a phenomenon of mass repentance. In this way people were made to realize that there can be no attachment to war for a realized Soul. Violence and nonviolence are attributes of mind but awareness is beyond these extremes. In defense of righteousness one has to go to war, but when one becomes the witness one only sees the play of war without taking any credit or discredit for it, or being disturbed by its aggression.
After Fāṭimah, the Reincarnation of Sītā, died, sectarian war broke out among the Muslims. One side, the Shiya sect, was founded by Her; in Indian dialect Sītā is pronounced 'Shiya'. They are known today as Shiites. Shiya women are regarded as fair, innocent and beautiful because of their motherly expressions; in the same way the women of Janakapur, Sītā's birthplace in India, are similarly blessed by Mahālakṣhmī."

The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Chapter 2: Divine Incarnations -- Ambassadors of God

"Hussain Hasan
sons of Fatima
daughter of Moha"

The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Appendix: Additional Figures by Śhrī Mātājī, Figure 21


Jay Śhrī Mātājī!