ŚHRĪ MUHAMMAD in the Words of ŚHRĪ MĀTĀJĪ

"Human love means possession and determination.
Divine Love soothes you, It raises you to a new awareness. It is something that's just flowing. Not rationality, nothing. It is to feel, feeling for the pain of others. Feeling for their longing and feeling for their aspirations. Just feel within.
With Yoga [Self-realization] we become collectively conscious. We can feel our centers and that of others on the fingertips. As Muhammad Sāhib had said, "At the Time of Resurrection, your fingers will speak."
The Namāz has the real ritual to know the Spirit.
The Pūjās and worship all pour joy on our central nervous system. We feel the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost, the Chaitanya Laharī in living experience. We become one with the Divine and the rapport is established. The Divine Vibrations indicate and the coding if we know them, we know their meanings. Love has its own bondage – very sweet and beautiful. We have to know the waves of the Divine Ocean of Grace and enjoy them."
1900-0000 Quote from the book Gita Enlightened (2014) by Yogi Mahajan, Pages 56 and 57

"When Kuṇḍalinī awakening and Self-realization has occurred, a flow of energy in the form of Cool Vibrations starts flowing from the hands; this is what is signified in the above passage [Qur'ān 36:65]. Here Prophet Muhammad is talking of the coming time, the Time of Resurrection, which is, in fact, the present age of Aquarius or Kuṇḍalinī awakening."

"In all the above verses, Prophet Muhammad has talked about Rebirth [True Baptism], the Day of Resurrection and has also said that hatred and enmity in the name of religion will last till the Day of Resurrection. True Baptism is only after the Kuṇḍalinī awakening, which is happening now. The Muslim way of offering prayers, Namāz as taught by the Prophet, was in fact a way of Kuṇḍalinī awakening."
1900-0000 Two Quotes from the book Divine Knowledge through Vibrations (1992) by P.T. Rajasekharan and R. Venkatesan, Page 73

Yogi Mahajan: As we grow deeper in Sahaja Yoga our ego also grows subtler. How to deal with the subtle ego?
Śhrī Mātājī: Muhammad Sāhab said, "Heaven lies at the Feet of the Mother." There is nothing beyond them, meditate on them. Day and night they work very hard to absorb your ego. Look at My Feet, how swollen they are, but I cannot stop them from absorbing your catches because they are very compassionate.
1900-0000 Quote on Subtler Ego from the book Insights, Inspirations and Eternal Moments, Chapter 39, Pages 122 by Yogi Mahajan

"Sahaja Yoga is very difficult for the Jains. If the Jains come into Sahaja Yoga they are very difficult people. Because their traditions are very shallow. The people of Ārya Samāj are very shallow people. Similarly the Buddhists: they believe in the formless but not as far as God is concerned.
Look at this, 'We do not know Buddha. We do not know Muhammad. We have not seen Them. We do not know Mahāvīra. We do not know anyone [of Them]. Who gave us Self-realization? Śhrī Mātājī. That we were able to know because of Śhrī Mātājī.' "
1900-0000 Quote, Navarātri Pūjā, from the book Sahaja Yoga, An Experiential Treatise (Sahaja Yoga Anubhavāche Bola) by Venu Narayan Phaḍake, Chapter 19, Pages 248 and 249

"According to me, Hazrate [Hazarat] Muhammad was one of the greatest incarnations because he was even greater than a Prophet. He announced some prophecies which none of the incarnations, such as Jesus, had described. The first thing he said was that we must have Meerraj [Mirāj], meaning the ascent through different levels. And at the third level he described how he met with all the previous Prophets such as Ibrahim, and he described the ascent on the white horse which is actually the power of Kundalini [Kuṇḍalinī]. Secondly, he said that when you receive your realization you have to fully surrender, meaning "Islam", and then your hands will speak. He did not condemn any previous religion or incarnation. For example, the Kabe Makeshwara [Kaaba Makkeśhwara] is also described in the Indian Koran [Qur'ān]. And thirdly, he described the next advent that is going to come. He never said that he was the last one. What shows that he never said he was the last is that he said that I am the seal, meaning that he was the stamp of the Prophets. He described the work of the advent of Mandi [Mahdī]. The word of Mandi [Mahdī] actually means the incarnation of the great primordial Mother – Ma + Adi [Ādi]. No one has prophesised [prophesized] so clearly about Sahaja Yoga except for Hazrate [Hazarat] Muhammad who has described Sahaja Yoga in his great book of Koran [Qur'ān]."
1901-0000 Letter Published in the Turkish Newspaper Bursa

Chaṃdūbhāī Jhaverī: When did this knowledge come to You? Śhrī Mātājī: I knew about it since I was born. I knew about Myself. If I have done anything it is to understand human beings. What's their problem? They follow Christ, they follow Muhammad Sāhab, they follow Rāma, they follow Kṛiṣhṇa, and they follow everything but nothing inside. What is the matter? Nothing penetrates, that was the thing. I thought they were not connected. They are to be connected to all this. Only what I have done is to work out the permutation and combination of human beings. That's not difficult because there are mainly seven chakras one has to work out and how you can raise the Kuṇḍalinī to break the Sahasrāra.
1972-0200 Conversation with Chaṃdūbhāī Jhaverī, Bordi or Mumbai, Maharashtra, India (could be also end of January)

"She is the Mother. If you can think of: She is the Mother of all the Mothers.
How a mother sees her child, She sees Her Creation.
First, She creates through the Divine Power, acting on the Material Power, all the Creation.
And then, She comes again and again, again and again, in three different forms.
She comes as a Mother Herself. Then She is most powerful and expressive.
As She has come, you know, as Nava Durgā She has come, as Mother Mary She has come, as Quan Yin She has come. She has come in many forms in many parts of the world. She came as Muhammad's daughter, She came as Nāṇaka's sister, She came as Janaka's daughter. Only one person, all the time, coming in this world in different forms."
1973-1124 Public Program, Day 6, 4 Duplex Lane, New Delhi, India

"To make the people cross the Void (Bhavasāgara) He has to make some arrangement. So the Great Power like Brahmā, Viṣhṇu, Maheśha was created and They were placed in the Area of Dharma.
Dattātreya and Ādi Gurus incarnated in this world many a times. He incarnated as King Janaka who was like the father of Ādi Śhakti. After that He incarnated in Iran as Zoroaster, then as Macchindranāth, then as Muhammad Sāheb and Nāṇak Sāheb.
No one fought with each other. See what type of darkness you are in?
Fāṭimah, the daughter of Muhammad Sāheb was the same who became daughter of King Janaka.
Whom are you fighting? Think over it.
The Nāṇakī of Guru Nāṇaka was none else but Jānakī.
Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth was also an Ādi Guru.
They are the Masters of all.
Also, They are My Gurus. These Ādi Gurus taught Me all this Knowledge. In different Incarnations They kept Me teaching.
Ultimately I had to come and do His work. They could not do it and now They are placing Me as a Guru so that I take up the job of a Guru.
There was an age when no one was willing to accept a woman as a Guru but in Kali Yuga only Mother could do His work: it is beyond the power of men.
This work could not be done by force, only the love of a Mother could do it because already there is so much pressure, tension in this world. The day it is forced upon the human being they will break down. So, love is the only way out.
So this Gurudom was given to Me. Everything is acceptable to Me.
But I didn't know the qualities of a Guru.
Gurus maintain distance but mother does not keep distance with the children. Children sit on her head.
So, you people also could take liberty with Me and enjoy. Be with Me with full freedom, you will neither be afraid nor be embarrassed. There is no problem, you could come and talk to Me boldly about your problems. You could complain to Me as you do to your mother. I am freely available to you.
Freedom was needed, religion was required to be discussed openly, there is no secret, no secret about it. Ultimately everything has to be explained very clearly. All the secrets are to be told about, everything could not be said everywhere."
1973-1125 Public Program (Hindi), Day 7, Pāne ke Bāda: Sāta Chakroṃ ke Devatā (After Getting It: Deities of the Seven Chakras), 4 Duplex Lane, New Delhi, India

"And that's why our dharma, the dharma of the whole world is distorted. Nobody would believe now that Hindu Dharma, was taken to such an epitome by Saints like Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, who was highly realized, where it has been now degraded. Where is Muhammad Sāhab and what is His religion now? Where Jesus Christ and what His religion is now? I can't see how people are walking blindly in the wrong directions.
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But before reaching the Heart chakra, the gap I showed you, is all the Bhavasāgara. In the center is the seat of Śhrī Viṣhṇu, and on it Śhrī Brahmadeva creates the whole universe. He made this Bhavasāgara.
After creating the Bhavasāgara, the question was, 'How to cross it over? The human being was created, but how to make him realize it? How to make human beings recognize it? In him, how to activate the Brahma Tattwa?' Meaning, 'How to get the Union of Śhiva and Śhakti within him? How would the connection be established?'
For this, a special personality was created in this world. This was created by the combined essence of Brahmā, Viṣhṇu, and Maheśh, who we acknowledge as Śhrī Dattātreya. Śhrī Dattātreya is none other than Ādi Guru.
He is My Guru. He has mentored Me all His past lives.
If you hear about His birth and all His previous lives you would be amazed. We have forgotten such a great thing.
Śhrī Dattātreya's Incarnations are numerous. Firstly He came as King Janaka. Śhrī Sītājī was His daughter, who was the embodiment of Śhakti Herself. Then He came as Macchindranāth, Zoroaster, and Muhammad Sāhab, who were a completely different type of human being.
They trialed out lots of different things.
Śhrī Datta, the Primordial Masters firstly in this world educated us about the symbolic forms within us. And then also said that, "You people got entangled in symbolism, in idol worshiping." Their meaning was to go beyond and recognize the Śhakti within these idols. That's why They talked about the idols.
For example, there is a flower, and to describe the honey within the flower, They talked about the flower first, from which the people would taste the honey. But people got stuck to flower. So Then they took Incarnations and talked about the honey.
In that, They talked about God in the abstract. They deliberately didn't talk about the reincarnation of life.
Because as soon as you talk about past lives, people ask Me, "Mātājī, tell me about my past lives." The life that has passed, why do you want to know that? Whether you were a king or a pauper, what difference it will make?
That's why They did not discuss past lives.
Muhammad Sāhab was the same, Dattātreya's Incarnation, and the same Incarnation was King Janaka. The same Incarnation was Nāṇaka, whose sister Nāṇakī, was the same Ādi Śhakti. She was Sītājī.
Now, what can I say, you would be surprised, that the Shia sect that started after Muhammad Sāhab, His daughter was Fāṭimah, She was also Ādi Śhakti.
And Her two children were, Hasan and Husayn, back then, when They saw even after the annihilation of the world, the human beings did not understand, then They were born as Buddha and Mahāvīra and They brought the non-violence as religion, and attempted that, 'Maybe with the establishment of non-violence people will achieve Self-realization.' But couldn't do it.
Now you are fighting amongst each other.
I always say, "If a Muslim gets obstructed from getting his Realization, you take the name of Dattātreya." And if [a] Hindu gets obstructed, I say, 'You take Muhammad Sāhab's name.'
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After that, Āgñyā chakra, when we come Āgñyā chakra, you would be surprised that we suddenly arrived in a very modern era. Before Muhammad Sāhab, a few days earlier, Jesus Christ was born.
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Like Muhammad Sāhab constantly said, "At least don't drink alcohol." But the Muslims drink so much, and the amount of poetry they have created in the name of drinking and wine, you won't find anywhere in the world.
Meaning is, I say on behalf of Muhammad Sāhab, 'Is this the religion of Muslims?' On behalf of Īsā Masīh, 'Is this Christian religion?' And on behalf of Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, I ask, 'Is this Hindu religion?' Which are based on myths."
1973-1208 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"The same Śhrī Dattā incarnated many a times on the Earth.
As I told you yesterday, King Janaka was one of Them. King Janaka was the father of Jānakī [Śhrī Sītā]. He was none other than the Incarnation of Śhrī Dattātreya.
Thereafter, Macchindranāth, most have you must have heard His name, was also His Incarnation.
After that Zoroaster who came three times on the Earth, He was also His Incarnation.
After that Muhammad Sāhab, who was His Incarnation.
And when He was asked that, "Bhāī [Brother], there must have been others also before You," then He replied, "Yes, there [was] a Muhammad." Then again He was asked who was before Him. He replied, "There was one Muhammad."
Muhammad means Praise, the One who is praised, the One who deserves to be praised and is the One who is Redeemer of the world.
They were all Muhammads, They were all Dattātreyas, who came on Earth regularly.
After that [was] Nāṇaka, Guru Nāṇaka. If you ever read His teachings, if you read His talks then you will be surprised that He has always talked in a Sahaja. He has said, "Sahaja Samādhi lago." He has said, "Kāhe re ban khojan jāe, Sarab nivāsī sadā alepā tohī saṃg[a] samāī, Puṣhpamadhya jo bāsa basata hai mukara māhī jaise chhāī, Taise hī harī base niraṃtara ghaṭa hī khojo bhāī." ["Why to go to forest to find Him, He is always there with you just like there is a fragrance in a flower and just as the reflection is there in a mirror, in the same way God is residing in you eternally, seek Him within."] He is just inside, achieve Him just inside. We are just singing poem, singing songs, we are just cramming His prescription.
The talk of seeking this Absolute Principle, residing just inside the heart, has been made since ancient times by these Ādi Gurus, who are incarnated on this Earth again and again."
After the birth of the daughter of Muhammad Sāhab, as I talked yesterday also, there was beginning of the caste Shia in Islam.
1973-1209 Public Program (Hindi), Day 3, Śhrī Dattātreya Jayanti, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"The one who desires gets it in no time. You should achieve the reality. But the thing should be real.
That's why I say that just now there is no need to come to My Feet. Considering his or her self-esteem in mind no one should go at anybody's feet. Therefore, Muhammad Sāhab prevented to go to anybody's feet, nobody needs to go.
Yes but when you get your Realization, when you achieve quite enough, then you will come to know that these vibrations flow tremendously through these Feet only. And without coming to Feet this thing cannot be completed. This is true, then it is OK, otherwise there is no need to come to My Feet."
1973-1219 Public Program (Hindi), Nagpur, Maharashtra, India (other date 1222)

"The second fault I notice is when a Human is alive, they make His life miserable and after His death glorify Him.
Sītājī was driven out of Her house, no Saint bothered about it. When She died, they built thousands of temples for Her.
Christ was put on the cross and when He died they built hundreds of temples. I cannot understand this. When He was alive, did people not have eyes? Those who understood Him, at least one or two were there, they did not listen to them. He had done amazing things, they did not notice that and they put Him on the cross!
Muhammad Sāhab also met the same fate.
Gñyāneśhwar met a different fate. When He died, they made scores of temples in this city of Mumbai.
It is very difficult to understand humans. When a Great Man is alive, a man turns away from Him, and when He dies in His Spirit, then he will carry Him on his head and try to identify with Him and goes about claiming, 'He was so-and-so,' his disciple, etc.
Why is a human attracted to dead things, I do not understand. Why does a man love destructive things?"
1974-0325 Public Program (Hindi), Day 1, Param Tattwa and Chetna Tattwa, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"And those who are fighting amongst themselves, they should also know: for whom they are fighting among themselves, are the same. Like for Muhammad Sāhib and Guru Nāṇak. Muhammad Sāhib and Guru Nāṇak was the same person. They had one identity.
From the life of Nāṇakjī, I will tell you, once He was lying down. People asked Him, "Why are You lying down with Your Feet towards Mecca, where there is Kaaba?" He said, "OK, I turn My Feet, Kaaba has tuned."
What is Kaaba? It is dust from Muhammad Sāhib's Feet and the same is of Nāṇak Sāhib also. Both are the same person and I will introduce Them in Kuṇḍalinī.
When someone gets cancer, he can be cured by either Nāṇak Sāhib or Muhammad Sāhib, no one else. Because what we call Void, is known to doctors, we call it Bhavasāgar, Dattātreya, who is Ādi Guru, who helps us in crossing Bhavasāgar, where all Gurus are present, unless you take the name of one of Them, you are not going to be free from problems of Bhavasāgar, which manifests as cancer. You can recognize cancer from the throb here. You cannot be cured.
I want to ask, 'How many Muslims are here and how many Sikhs?'
One thing, Muhammad Sāhib has prohibited the drinking of alcohol. He said, "Don't touch alcohol." He did not say anything. He was murdered. I know to what state He was reduced to.
Sometimes at the mosque there will be fights over small leftovers.
And I want to ask those Muslims who drink and remind them about Muhammad Sāhib. They won't like it and they definitely will drink alcohol. Not only that, [but] they wrote poetry on alcohol. For them alcohol is God."
1974-0326 Public Program (Hindi+English), Day 2, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"You measure your innocence. There is no measurement for this, no criteria for this. Only you can know, no one else can know.
That is why children get it instantly, and after getting their Realization they say, 'We are getting it. He is getting Cool Vibrations and he is getting hot.'
At My place, we have a two-year-old granddaughter. If any cunning person comes, she will ring a bell: she has kept a bell with her to say that the person has come and we come to know she is feeling the heat and she is feeling the discomfort.
They played a song about it, it is a big thing, it is a big thing.
They came into this world to uplift the world. The poor people, Their hands got burnt and destroyed, legs have burnt and destroyed, how much trouble They faced from demonic, evil people!
The innocent people like Christ have been crucified, Muhammad Sāhab has been murdered, is there anyone whom they have not harassed? Are you with them or with Innocence?"
1974-0327 Public Program (Hindi), Day 3, Chaitanya Laharī kyā Hai (What Are Waves of Vibrations), Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"So many Gurus and Avatāras, Ṛiṣhi Munis, have talked about ascent of man. Christ, Muhammad Sāhib, Guru Nāṇak, all these people have talked about this, 'That you have to go beyond this māyā [illusions], this Bhavasāgar [Void], this misidentification.'
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These who believe in the reality of Hinduism, in the reality of their religion, must go to the essences of religion.
Now there are many Sikhs. I can talk about Guru Nāṇak. Guru Nāṇak has clearly said, I would say nobody has said so clearly as He, so clearly has said it, "Kāhe re ban khojan jāe, Sarab nivāsī sadā alepā tohī saṃg[a] samāī, Puṣhpa madhaye jo was basat hai makar mahi jas jhahi, Taise he harī base niraṃtara ghaṭa hī khojo bhāī": you are just singing these songs from morning till evening in your Darabār Sāhib. These are the descriptions your Great Guru has given you to search within your ghaṭ. When are you going to do that? Stop all that!
I am not against your bhajan. But now entertainment is not the way. Let it be over now. Let us search it within ourselves.
Find out that center which He has said. What are we singing about? Have we done any justice to our Guru? Have we done any justice to our Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya? Have we done any justice to Christ or to Muhammad Sāhib? We have not. We are doing just the opposite of what They have told us.
Muslims are very fanatic people.
I would say Muhammad Sāhib was the least fanatic personality.
He suffered so much. I think, in that Incarnation, no Guru has suffered as much as He has. He suffered too much beyond description. Ultimately He was given poison. He was killed."
" 1975-0300 Public Program, 10 King George Avenue (now Rajaji Mārg), Meena Bagh, Krishna Manon Lane Area, New Delhi, India (Anant Jeevan, Issue 2, Pages 8–11)

"Now the state of the scientists is this. In America, many people have started smoking marijuana and other drugs. So, a committee of five scientists was formed to find out what are the effects of taking these drugs. When they went to find out, they got possessed by bhūts. As a result, the scientists themselves started smoking drugs and resigned from their jobs. If they were such great scientists then why did they start smoking marijuana? Why do they drink so much alcohol?
Muhammad Sāhib told that alcohol should be avoided and Nāṇak Sāhib told that alcohol should be avoided.
But if they can do the same through science then I will accept that science is great."
1975-1222 Public Program (Hindi), Day 1, Prabhu ke Prem kā Anubhav (Experiences of Lord's Love), Gita Mandir Hall, Bharatiya Vidyā Bhavan (3rd floor), 29, Kulapati K.M. Munshi Mārg, Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"Now the ... these three aspects, the essence of these aspects, or we can say the innocence of these three aspects, is combined in the Primord[i]al Guru, or the Ādi Guru Dattātreya, who resides in the Bhavasāgara and helps Śhrī Viṣhṇu for your evolution.
Now He has taken many Incarnations, mainly Ten Incarnations. And these are very important, and we have to understand Them in Their full entirety.
If you accept Him as Dattātreya, you have to also accept Him as Rāja Janaka.
It's easy for a Hindu mind to accept Rāja Janaka, but they cannot accept Muhammad Sāhab, who was same as Rāja Janaka. It is a fact which can ... we can prove it on your Kuṇḍalinī.
A person who is suffering from cancer of the stomach – now this is the thing, when I say that Sahaja Yoga can cure your cancer, you have to give up certain notions that we have in our hear... head.
A person, eh supposing he's a Hindu, and he's suffering from the stomach cancer, I have to ask him to take the name of Muhammad Sāhab. If I fail to ask him or if I convince ... do not him ... convince Him, I cannot cure his can't ... cancer. I'm sorry, I tell him, 'I just cannot do it.' But if he is a Muslim, I have to tell him: 'You have to take the name of Dattātreya.'
Human beings, like fools, have taken away the living flowers of one tree, and now are fighting on something that is dead.
He was Dattātreya. There is no doubt about it.
And His daughter Fāṭimah was nobody else but Sītā Jānakī Herself.
And Her two sons, Hasan and Husayn, were nobody else but Lava and Kuśha. They were born again and again: They were born as Mahāvīra and Buddha, and then They were born as Hasan and Husayn.
It is only possible through Sahaja Yoga to realize that this is the Truth, this is the fact.
He was born as Nāṇaka. And Nāṇakī was nobody else but Jānakī.
In Nāṇaka's life He has expressed it. Of course I don't know how many people have read about Nāṇak.
Nāṇaka one day was sleeping, and His Feet were towards Kaaba. And people were getting vibrations from that side, so they said: "What are You doing your? Your Feet are towards Kaaba!" So He said, "All right, I'll turn My Feet's on the other side." And they started getting vibrations from the other side. They said, "What? Kaaba has moved or what?"
He has, in a way, showed.
'But how dare They say many things?' When They said very few thing[s], they have killed all these people and tortured Them.
If you read Muhammad Sāhab['s] life, you will feel, 'What foolish people we have been, the way we have tortured [Him]!'
For fanaticism the way He was killed!
Actually was poisoned. He had no place where to hide His head the way people were after Him, because He was telling the Truth.
And fanaticism is one thing He fought.
So, Guru Tattwa is killed as soon as you become a fanatic person. Your Guru Tattwa is immediately finished, as soon as you take to fanaticism of any kind!"
1976-0205 Public Program (Vasant Pañchamī), Day 2, Description of Kuṇḍalinī, after Śhrī Viṣhnu Havan, New Delhi, India

"How can you make out whether the hair of Muhammad Sāhab is in that place in Kashmir? Or it is of some imposter? Have you got any method by which you can detect? I can say: 'It is the hair of Muhammad Sāhab.' I say that!
But why should you accept Me also?"
1976-0319 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, It Is a Spontaneous Growth of Your Being into that Infinite Realm of God's Grace and The Articulation of Your Personality, Seminar, Day 1, Session 2 (evening), Cowasji Jehangir Hall, 15, Madam Cama Rd, Mantralaya, Fort, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"Another thing is, here in Bhavasāgar, all Three, Brahmā, Viṣhṇu, Maheśhwar, combined to make a child, who is called Ādi Guru, is known as Dattātreya. There were many Incarnations of Him. And His Child Tattwa also took Incarnations. First was Dattātreya, then came Rāja Janak. Like this, many Incarnations came, Rāja Janak, Nāṇak, Zarathustra, Muhammad Sāhab, Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī.
They are all one. Are They or not? You can witness it after Self-realization. If you believe in one Guru, like Nāṇak, then you have no right not to accept Muhammad Sāhab. If you get Muhammad Sāhab and not Nāṇak, then you have no authority as well.
You will be surprised, most of the cancer disease comes from the imbalance of Bhavasāgar, you follow one but not the other. Cancer also comes when we don't follow Them.
Like He forbade two things, like not to smoke a cigarette and not to consume alcohol.
Alcohol is entirely not allowed. Here, in Sahaja Yoga, if someone is habituated to drink alcohol, they will leave it. If they don't leave alcohol, it will [not] be in moderation because both of these things go against Guru Tattwa.
If Guru Tattwa is not established within us, we cannot have our evolution. Guru Tattwa is essential. Guru Tattwa is one destiny for all religions. There is one flow from all the religions."
1976-032x Public Program (Hindi), Day y, Advertised as 'Kuṇḍalinī Awakening', New Delhi, India (date to be confirmed)

Version 1:
"Let there be any Scripture, which Prophet Muhammad wrote or Lord Jesus told or Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa narrated in the Gītā, all contain the same principle that, "You have to know the Swa," meaning Spirit embodied within, and you will have Its power.
However, moment this is told to them, they recede, because they are impenitent.
They are immediately convinced with an untruth. Used to treading on the path of untruth, the untruth is internalized easily and deep.
What has finally the man achieved by catching untruth? Only the rationalizing!"
Version 2:
In any Scripture, whether it is written by Muhammad or recited by Christians or recited by Lord Kṛiṣhṇa in the Gītā, the principle is that, "You should know the Self," within yourself and you gain Its power.
But with that being said, people are reluctant to do this because people don't understand the Truth.
If it is untrue, it will be understood immediately and it will be accepted because of the habit of walking on the path of untruth.
What is the last step that human beings have reached by holding on to more lies?
1976-1218 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Marathi), Sahaja Yog Yāmmadhye Dharma Sthāpanā Jhālī Pāhije (Dharma Should Be Established in Sahaja Yoga Knowledge), Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"You can have free cabaret, and you can have free discourses on all the nonsensical things debasing God Himself! All these things are so interesting to human being! Are they really seeking the Truth? Are they really asking the reality?
They will never read Śhaṅkarāchārya!
Yesterday I told you: 'They will never go and find out what Mārkaṇḍeya had written! They have no time to find out what Jesus has to say about it! They don't know what Muhammad Sāhab has said!'
Nāṇak Sāhab said so many things, Kabīra has said so many things. 'They are all fools!'
These 'wise' have come from somewhere to teach us about all these satanic methods that they want to employ on us. So be ware! Be careful! This is a ghor Kali Yuga. All these satanic forces are acting!"
1976-1222 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (English+Hindi), Spirits of the Dead, Sweet Home, Dadar, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"This is the reason why, when Muhammad Sāhab came in, He preached that you should not bow to anyone, whatsoever. Because boing [bowing] He knew that when the real person will come, you will recognize Him in any case.
But there was a general rules, even Nāṇak Sāhab we can ...... And Nāṇak Sāhab organized a very thick book, just a symbol of wisdom of many Great Souls, that you can only go and bow to that and not to anybody else.
[unclear] and Muhammad Sāhab are just the same.
But the followers, as usual, have committed such blunders that it appears that they are not the followers, but they are the enemies of these Great Incarnations.
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'She should have done it, why should I? Why ... what, what can I do?' I mean, who is he, who are you? He is a Sahaja Yogi, you are also a Sahaja Yogi. The people who are responsible in every way: in your behavior, ...
Muhammad Sāhab has been very-very particular on this and He did say, very clearly, that, "While doing Namāz in presence of the Divine, you should not budge even from where you are sitting, you should not move, your eyes should not rove about, you should not yawn." He told so many things! If you, I mean I can't even tell you how many things He had said it. To all the details! In behavior, He has said great things."
1977-0126 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (28th Republic Day), Day 1, Collective Phenomena and We Have to Be Responsible, Bordi, Maharashtra, India (likely Day 2, continuation of the Talk on Attention and Joy)

"Now the Source of Joy is within your Self. Unless and until you seek your Self you cannot seek God.
They have all talked about the Second Birth. What we call the Baptism is also the same, where you have to be born-again. Is not just a formal one that is done by unauthorized people.
Even the word Mussulman, Muhammad Sāhab has again and again talked of a Rebirth.
You have to find your Self.
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That doesn't mean that I'm preaching anything Hinduism or anything like that. All the Saints, I will tell you. I will also tell you about Christ where He exists. I'll also tell you about Muhammad Sāhab where He exists, about all of Them.
So, it is no question of one religion or anything. But these are different things which came in the evolutionary process of man, and all the evolution that took place in every human being is within himself. Is recorded, and he's standing on that.
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Muhammad Sāhib has clearly said, "No intoxications. Nothing! Nothing at all!"
Nāṇak has said the same.
They are both the same people, you will be surprised. Same people born at different times: same people, teaching the same thing.
Nāṇak said the same thing: "No smoking, nothing!"
But today there are no Sikhs, in the morning they were.
Sikhs are fighting in London, that, "We should not wear the helmets." Imagine.
Where is it written? In which book Nāṇak Sāhab has written this, I would like to see. That helmets – on the contrary He said, "Bheṣh kā kyā phāyadā kā?," "What is the use of changing your dress?"
And they are fighting on this point.
But the ways a Sikh's drink in London, I mean the Britisher are ashamed. Say, I mean, they ... they think they are no good compared to Sikhs, the way they can consume.
And they are fighting in the name of religion! Is a fact, I'm telling you.
That the helmet they cannot wear! Because they must have a right and freedom to crack their heads on a scooter. What is this?
[Laughing:] And there is a big procession every, I think every Sunday they take it out, 'against protecting'. My head's off to all these people.
That is what they have done out of Nāṇak Sāhib.
And the Muslims, think of them, they have written poetry on drinking.
Now if I say, 'You don't have to drink,'' they will think, 'This Lady is talking from [laughing:] about ten thousand years back.' But is a fact, I'm telling you: it is not meant for human consumption at all, none of these are!
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He has incarnated only once on this Earth, and you'll be surprised if I tell you who was that: is Hazarat ʿAlī. He was the son-in-law of Muhammad Sāhab.
Muhammad Sāhib is the Incarnation of the Primordial Master or the Ādi Guru, who incarnated in the Void, in the Bhavasāgara. And He is the same as Nāṇak.
But if I tell this to Muslims, they'll kill Me, or the Sikhs will kill Me, one of the two. I don't know who will come first.
I don't think this time they are going to crucify, but they are not going to like it.
They are the same people! There are Ten of Them born like that. They are the same people born again and again. And They are the people, if you accept Them, in only one Incarnation, They are not going to accept it. You have to accept Them in all Their Incarnations!
I give an example. There was a doctor who was suffering from the cancer of stomach, Muslim. He met Me in London. And when I told him, that, "You have to worship Dattātreya," he got a shock of his life! He said, "You mean to say I must give up my religion?" I said, "Your religion is in ... in imbalance. He was the same as Muhammad Sāhab. Actually Dattātreya incarnated as Muhammad Sāhib." He said, "I cannot do that! I only believe in Muhammad Sāhab!" I said, "All right, I cannot cure your [unclear] ... cancer because cancer is because of imbalance. Is too much activity on one side."
Overactivity of the sympathetic nervous system causes cancer. You write it down today and you can verify it. And that's why when people say I've cured cancer, I have! No doubt! Not only Me, but even this doctor who is here he has cured cancer.
Cancer is only curable through the balance of Sahaja Yoga. Otherwise is not possible! Take it from Me!
So the imbalance of this man, he would not listen but cancer is a vague thing that way.
He had to come back. "All right Mother, I accept You." I said, "All right. Now will you place to ... pray to ... pray to Dattātreya?"
A Muslim has to become a Hindu, and a Hindu has to become a Muslim. A Sikh has to become a Muslim, and a Muslim has to become a Sikh.
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In the same way, so-called Christians have done all that was necessary to kill the image of Christ. Is rather surprising.
But I think the opposites are attracted. The drunkards will become the disciples of Muhammad Sāhab, all the licentious will become the disciples of Christ, and all the, that we call in Sanskrit Drāviḍī [laughing:] Prāṇāyāmi, will become the Hindu. That's how it is: just the opposite."
1977-0222 Public Program, Day 1, About Different Chakras and Their Deities, Gāndhī Bhawan, Delhi University, North Campus, GC Narang Road, Timarpur, New Delhi, India

"When Muhammad Sāhab told people to read [do] Namāz then people made fun of Him, and when in eternal [ancient] time when hom-havan [offering to the fire], etc. was started to be performed in our land, then also, there were this kind of people who thought that it was a huge stupidity. 'Why should it be done?'
And when they become ritualistic, then people accept it as if it is a part and parcel of their being. Like doing namaskār [obeisance]."
1977-0316 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Sab Chījoṃ Meṃ Mahāmantra Ho (In everything There Should Be Mahāmantra), India

"I wish all of you a very-very happy New Year today because it is Navroz, and Navroz is the day when Zartosht [Zoroaster in Urdu] started His work on this world. He was a great Sahaja Yogi. He was an Incarnation of Dattātreya Himself.
Vaidya Sāhab has told you about Muhammad Sāhab, I have to tell you that He was My Father. And He was the Incarnation of Dattātreya Himself. He was not an ordinary person. Though the people tortured His life. Every moment that He lived, they tortured Him.
And Hazarat ʿAlī is a very-very Great Incarnation where only once, only once, Brahmadeva has incarnated and He has incarnated as Hazarat ʿAlī.
So, these people are so great! You cannot criticize Them. They are so great: every word that They have spoken is a Mantra. Everything They have told you about this Namāz, which is nothing but Kuṇḍalinī jāgṛuti [awakening].
Muhammad Sāhab has done the greatest job in Sahaja Yoga and has done the greatest advancement as far as the Kuṇḍalinī jāgṛuti is concerned.
How can you criticize Him? I can't bear to hear even a word about ... against Him. I know how much He has been tortured. And the same people, today, are born in this country who are talking against Him. When you cannot ris [rise] even at His Feet, why should you take such a big step? Understand, 'What have you done in life? What have you got with yourself that you are criticizing these great personalities?'
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Sahaja Yoga is the integration of all the Truths of Life and I can prove it to you, on the Kuṇḍalinī, that what I say is the fact – is the fact. Unless and until you take Hazarat ʿAlī's name your Swādhiṣhṭhān chakra cannot be cured, and all the Sahaja Yogis know about it. And in the Sahaja Yogi Pūjā we have to take the name of Muhammad Sāhib again and again and that of Hazarat ʿAlī. And also we have to take the name of Jesus the Lord, who is the āśhraya [refuge, shelter] of all this world, described by Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa in the Bhagavad Gītā – He was the Mahāviṣhṇu. You can read it for yourself and you will be surprised that all the things described about Mahāviṣhṇu are absolutely the same as Jesus Christ was."
1977-0321 Birthday Pūjā, Cowasji Jehangir Hall, 15, Madam Cama Road, Mantralaya, Fort, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"Like Christ has said that, "One should not take the help of ghosts and phantoms." Muhammad Sāhab has said, "Don't take alcoholic drinks," etc. Rāja Janaka has said that, "You should treat all humans with the same attitude in the presence of Parameśhwar." Nāṇak has said, "The Parameśhwar dwells in all human beings in this world." He also prohibited all narcotics. But what are His ardent followers and close supporters doing? What are Christ's supporters doing?"
1977-0323 Public Program (Hindi), Prem Dharma (Dharma of Love), Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"When they talk of Muhammad Sāhab, they must know that He had to take the help of fife women to be there. And they were alone better than the other, all of them were uh-uh-uh muihs [muhsin], with Him, the powers. They were the powers that He had, and that's how He had to marry so many. None understands what was it. For example His own first wife Khadija was nobody else but Mahāsaraswatī. His own daughter was nobody else but Mahālakṣhmī. So it was all His Powers expressed as His wife, or sister, or daughter who helped Him in His lifetime, sustaining His Powers."
1977-0400 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Auṃ, (likely) Living Room, Gavin Brown's Geological Institute (Terrace House), 160 North Gower Street, 2nd Floor, Euston, London, UK (month and location not sure)

"Now, this Guru was created when the world was created itself. Because we ... one had to create a Guru before the world was created in then Vaikuṇṭha Stage only.
But then He reincarnated many a times.
At the time of Rāma, very early, even before Rāma came into this world, much earlier than that, He was created by Satī Anusūyā. She was Herself a part of the Ādi Śhakti, who created Him out of the essences, the innocence of Brahmā, Viṣhṇu and Maheśh.
There's a legend about it which I will tell you sometime.
And She created Him. Actually, She created Him, so She's the Mother.
But then, She becomes the Guru.
When She is born as Sītā, He becomes the father. So, She ... father is Her Guru.
Then, when Rāja Janaka is born as Muhammad Sāhab, then She becomes again the daughter.
But when He is born as Nāṇaka, then He becomes the ... She becomes His sister.
So the relationship exists and whenever He is born, She is born, in a way, that, you see, that relationship is kept a sublime relationship. I mean to say: that they are never born as husband and wife."
1977-0701 Guru Pūjā (Guru Pūrṇimā Day) (first more formal Pūjā in the West), Self-realization, Living Room, Gavin Brown's Geological Institute (Terrace House), 160 North Gower Street, 2nd Floor, Euston, London, UK

"So the pattern of life that is followed by an Incarnation, are always followed, and that's why false gurus rise [unclear].
For example, we'll see Christ took a hunter in His hand and started lashing at people when ... which ... when they were selling God. I feel the same way and I've ... I've [unclear].
If you read Kabīr, you'll find He's lashing at all these people. If you read Muhammad Sāhab, He is criticizing them."
1977-0700 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Purity Washes Off All that Is Impure and Dharmas Are to Be Established, Seminar, Day 1 or 2, House Rented by Djamel Metouri and Other Students, Saint Albans (19 miles N-NW of London), UK (other month 08)

"At the time when Muhammad Sāhab was there, the foreigner group has invaded, big group. They called it a clan or whatever you may call it. And this one was hit all the times, you see. And many men were killed because they used to go on wars and people used to attack them. It was a different style of spreading a religion, because that time they couldn't even exist. Even Muhammad Sāhab was poisoned. Many a time He was attacked. So they had to defend themselves and many men were killed. But very few men ... men were left and many women were there. So Muhammad Sāhab said: "Under such circumstances, one man can marry four women." Because he can protect them, he can satisfy them, better. But there are so many rules and regulations with that marriage. Apart from that, it should be a marriage! It has to be a marriage uh ..."
1977-1026 Workshop, Follow-up of the First Advertised Public Program in Europe, Āśhram, 234A Regent's Park Road, Finchley, London, UK

"Eyes should be absolutely clear, going outward, not receiving anything into the eyes, from others, because what you receive is dirt and filth.
This is how you receive all the spirits, from the eyes, and they go into your psychic. Most of these gurus touch your Āgñyā and put the spirits into it, through this.
That's why, you see, Muhammad Sāhab said, "Never bend this before anybody else."
If you have bent this before anybody else, but a person who is really an authority, then all your – this is the sign of your human, and of you being the human being. And when you bend this before anybody else, then they hit you hard, and they come into you. And they work it out."
1977-1030 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Mind and It's Relationship to Kuṇḍalinī, Āśhram, 234A Regent's Park Road, Finchley, London, UK (date and location to be confirmed)

"Only people who existed in the name of religion were orthodox rabid, horrible people who crucified Christ, who killed Muhammad Sāhab, who tortured Gñyāneśhwara, who tortured Kabīra, who tortured, of all the things, Śhaṅkarāchārya.
Buddha, Mahāvīra, [unclear], everyone of Them! All these horrid people in the name of religion tortured Them.
And today now, we have got these satanic people coming out of that Hell. They have suffered there, you see, they were punished. And they were ... they, after their punishment they are coming out, with a double force: with a new subtler methods of befooling you people."
1977-1121 Public Program, Tantrism, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"I had gone to Kashmir. It's surprising, our car was driving along, I said, "Wait, wait! Whose resting place is this?" They replied, "No one's resting place, Mother. There is one strand of Muhammad Sāhib's hair that is preserved here." They call it Iqbal. I folded My hands towards it. One hair of His kept there and so much vibrations in that area!
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What does it cost to say that, 'According to our Mother drinking is bad'? 'Don't drink.'
Some people come to Sahaja Yoga with continuing their habit of drinking.
Now if it's wrong, it's wrong. You should understand.
Was Muhammad or Nāṇakjī mad that They prohibited drinking? Were They mad? They were not mad people who prohibited all of this.
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I've seen that people say bad things about Muhammad, even Sahaja Yogis. It's surprising. Who gave you the Realization? Who is sitting in your stomach? How many years did you meditate and enter your stomach, who gave you Realization? Who is sitting on the Āgñyā? Did you make all this?
The people who made Themselves into steel, They made themselves like this, like gold They came out of this to make this possible for you, who are you to question Them? Who are you? They are part of Me. Part of My head and eyes. I'm surprised who are you to criticize Them?
Any such great power that is inside these Gods, anything against Them, to say anything against and to even think anything against is a great sin. You just accept this fact from Me. Or you will get caught up in Heart chakra."
1977-1228 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Hindi), Ātmā ki Anubhūti, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"I have told you about Nābhī chakra and also about Void. The Guru Principle resides in this Bhavasāgara [Void] and this Guru Principle establishes the dharma within us. These ten petals here that we have shown are the ones which establishes the Ten Dharmas within us.
It is important to have these Ten Dharmas in a human being otherwise he is not a human being. Even if he has has nine dharmas in him is still [unclear] a bit and if he does not follow these dharmas that are within him, and when I say dharma I don't mean by Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and all that, but dharma means the Innate Dharma of humanity within, if one does not keep to those Ten Dharmas, then he turns into a demon [devil].
This Guru Principle (Tattwa) has taken birth in this world in many forms especially it has these Ten Main Incarnations have taken birth like Rāja Janaka, Nāṇak, Muhammad Sāhab, etc. and at the end it was Sāī Nāth from Śhirḍī, who took birth. They tie this Tattwa [Principle] within us because all these Gurus who have taken birth for our evolution are placed within us.
[unclear] these Gurus are very subtly placed Deities within us.
Like for these Guru already say, "Don't consume alcohol," then They weren't mad that They said this. Neither They were standing in any elections to win votes that They said that. You can't even say that They had any kind of business that in some competitive feeling He said that thing.
They said, "Child, don't drink alcohol, don't take to cigarettes, don't take any kind of drugs," because the position of our attention within is also placed in the area of Void.
You will be surprised to know that our attention is in our stomach. Actually, to be specific, in liver resides our attention.
They said, "You don't drink alcohol," so your attention does not get spoiled. You know by drinking human awareness gets damaged.
People got the other way by saying, 'OK, if drinking is not allowed then let's not garlic, onions, etc.' Prophet Muhammad used to eat garlic, onions and also Nāṇaka used to eat meat and all that.
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This is the Virāṭa. Virāṭa, the One we call it as Akbar, that is why Muslims call it Allah hu Akbar. The Akbar Muhammad spoke about was Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa. He spoke about Kṛiṣhṇa, He is the One who takes the form of Virāṭa. There can't be any fight of Muhammad and Kṛiṣhṇa as One was the Guru [and] He was the Virāṭa.
Then you will say, 'Then Kṛiṣhṇa was greater than Him.'
So tell Me in your case, if your eyes are bigger or nose? That your ear is bigger or your mouth?
Everyone has Their own space, Their own importance [points towards the human Chakra Chart and describes the Virāṭa].
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Now in this Void we have two great entities as well which we know as Chandra [Moon] and Sūrya [Sun]. Moon and Sun are such chakras which reside on these nāḍīs here and here [likely pointing towards the Chakra Chart]. On these chakras there are two very great personalities who have been appointed. They are complete embodiment of human beings. They are like humans, in fact are humans. Out of these one is Buddha and one is Mahāvīra.
But if you listen to the whole history of Their lives, then these are two sons which Śhrī Sītā had as Lav and Kuśha who is completely in human form. And after They evolved to the level that They are here as Buddha and Mahāvīra. There also they thought They have reached an extreme of nonviolence because the supports of nonviolence came in and started protecting even mosquitoes and bugs.
Then They again took birth and came at the time of Muhammad. Muhammad was an Incarnation of Śhrī Janaka and His daughter Fāṭimah Bi was also Incarnation of Śhrī Sītā.
Then, as Their sons as Hasan and Husayn, They gave their life in Karbalāʾ to prove that no kind of extreme is good."
1978-0131 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Void, Heart, Viśhuddhi, Channels, New Delhi, India

"That day I did not tell this that Brahmadevjī has taken birth only one time in this world. Only one time. There was a reason for that. And you will get surprised on [My] saying this that was Hazarat ʿAlī, was the son-in-law of Muhammad Sāhab. That is the only Incarnation of Brahmadev in this world. One time only. This is a[n] amazing thing. [Variant: That day I told you that Śhrī Brahmadev took birth only once in this world, only once. There was a reason behind this. And you will be surprised to know that Śhrī Hazarat ʿAlī, who was the son-in-law of Prophet Muhammad, was the only Incarnation of Śhrī Brahmadev on Earth. Only once. This is remarkable.]
People will not accept this saying but you people [please] see in vibrations, then you will understand that I am not telling a lie to you. [Variant: People will not believe this but you can check on vibrations and you will realize that I'm telling the truth.]
Therefore those who have liver, etc. takalīph [problem, difficulty] or have the problem of diabetes because of this chakra, what I told you, due to imbalance, those who are rajoguṇīs [right-sided] people, that problems those [people] get, the treatment of all those problems is taking the name of Hazarat ʿAlī Sāhab. [Variant: Therefore, people who have problems with the liver or are suffering from diabetes because of imbalance, the people who are right-sided and have problems, all such problems can be cured by taking the name of Hazarat ʿAlī Sāhab.]
The problems get removed by this only. It's a matter of great surprise, but it's true [correct, right].
[If] Muslims will accept this then you will not and [if] you māniyegā [will agree (with), accept, honor] Kṛiṣhṇa, then Muslims will not accept. [We] have to be realized (pār) in the world. Though these all reside only in one body, in Virāṭ. [Variant: If Muslims accept this, you will not and if you accept Kṛiṣhṇa they will not. We need to ascend in this world. Although all such people are residing inside the body of Virāṭ.]
They are all connected. Because Hazarat ʿAlī was the son-in-law of Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Muhammad was the Incarnation of King Janaka. His sons Hasan and Husayn, who were killed in the battle of Karbalā, were no one else but Sītājī's sons Lav and Kuśh, who were later incarnated as Mahāvīr and Buddha.
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If you are realized, that is Alla hu Akbar, means Allah who is the Virāṭ. And Virāṭ is the description of Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa.
Prophet Muhammad has Himself described Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa with such fervor. Wherever He said about Allah, He talked about Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa.
Wherever Christ talked about His Father, He talked about Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa.
But He [Prophet Muhammad] talked about Formless because the people were caught up in petty things, you can say in our country only."
1978-0201 Public Program (Hindi), Brahma kā Gyān (Knowledge of Brahma) or Mūlādhāra to Viśhuddhi, Āgñyā, and Sahasrāra, 9 Raisina Road, New Delhi, India

"So. Today, as we know that, this is the day of Muhammad Sāhab's Birthday.
And we have to understand that all these Incarnations came at different times. They all came at different times. And They came as a continuous process of evolution of man.
No question of conflict or anything with Them. No question. You see, human beings can't understand! Because they create conflict, they have lived with conflicts, you see.
This thing is closing down, let's see.
So They just came on this Earth, nobody's property. They came as Incarnations on this Earth, all of Them.
THe [Muhammad Sāhab] came after Christ. See His position!"
1978-0220 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, What Is the Surrender (Surrender, Will, Spirit, Attention, Mind), Āśhram, 234A Regent's Park Road, Finchley, London, UK

"Now how do you make out a real and an unreal person?
Because we are so insensitive that we are more attracted by [laughing:] unreal than by the real, really. If we had not done that, we would not have crucified Christ. You would not have given poison to Muhammad Sāhab.
To how to make out a real and unreal is the problem: is that we have to consider Scriptures."
1978-0716 Public Program, East–West, Love, and Money, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK (other date 0717)

"To you the important thing will be, say, a hair from the head of Muhammad Prophet. It's much more auspicious than all the world put together.
See I went to Kashmir as I told you, and where we were just crossing through, I asked the driver, I said, "What's this place?" He said, "Why?" He said, "Is there." I said, "Is there any temple here? What ... who what is this place? It's so beautiful!" So, My husband looked around, he said "What's beautiful about it? I don't understand! There's nothing here, around You." He said "No, there's nothing, but there's a ... there's a place just there, you can see that. Uh there the hair of Muhammad Prophet is kept." I said, "That's it!"
No joy, beauty I could ever get it from anywhere, from any place. Could be very beautiful, you may feel that uh, 'This is the Heaven here!', for Me which cannot be. Which may be that place where one hair of Muhammad Prophet is there, it's auspicious."
1978-1002 Public Program (1st Day of Navarātri), Knots on the Three Channels, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"There was a doctor who was suffering from cancer, who came to Me. And he was an ardent Muslim. And I told him to take the name of Nāṇaka. He said, "I would not. I can only take the name of Muhammad." I said, "Muhammad Himself is angry with you because you are such a fanatic. Because Muhammad was born as Nāṇaka." He said, "No, I cannot take His name." "All right," I said, "go ahead." I said, "All right, take the name of Dattātreya." He would not take it. He would not take the name of Moses. He said, "I only know Muhammad."
But then he was very much worse.
Then he came to Me. I said, "Now take the name of Dattātreya." You won't believe: he sat down, he said, "Mother, teach me how to do Pūjā of Dattātreya." And he got much better. I must say!
There was another gentleman who was a staunch Hindu. And if they are staunch, they are the worst they can take up. [Laughter.] And I told him that he has to take the name of Muhammad. And he would not! He said, "You are finishing my religion in, what are you doing‽ You are blasphemous!" And all kind of things he said. I said, "All right. You can say whatever you like."
After one year he again reappeared, in Delhi. And then I told him, "Now will you take the name of Muhammad Sāhab and do some Namāz?" And he read it! And he is all right."
1978-1014 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Advice on Our Powers, How to Handle Scientists, First Western Seminar, Day 1, Conference Center, East Hampstead Park (near Workingham, 60 kms W of London), UK

"Like in uh Kashmir I went and I went to a place and I just got tremendous vibrations. And I said, "What's here here? Is there a temple or something?" They said, "No." I said, "This place seems to be really vibrated." I stopped the car and asked the driver. He said, "You know, there is a Iqbal, is that the one hair of Muhammad is put there." "Oh," I said, "that's great." And the driver said, "What's great? This hair has caused so much problem here. People have been fighting over it, there has been so many murders," and this, that.
Now what the poor hair has done? You see, just imagine. To Me, it has given Joy, and such feeling of oneness there. And to others, it has given fighting! For the Muslims have been fighting because the hair was lost and this and that and ... Then when the hair was returned, they did not know whether it was a true hair or some other hair. [Laughter.]
Big controversies about things!
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Muhammad Sāhab took His birth as Nāṇaka. If you read Nāṇaka's life, I mean if you read what He has to say, all the time He is saying, "O God, how are you fighting among yourself, the Hindus and the Muslims, or the Mus... the Muslims and the other people? I am just the same! How are you fighting?"
You see, when ... when He died, Muhammad Sāhib, and He saw where the Religion was taken by Muslims, He was to be born again, to tell them!
But when He was born again, and when He started telling, people stoned Him.
And these Sikhs asked them, these fools, "You go and ask them, 'What Muhammad ... uh He has done?' "
All His life He was trying to unite both of them. Because He was so much surprised at this!
And imagine the Sikhs, all their lives they are fighting the Muslims, and the Muslims, the fools, they are fighting the Sikhs.
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Now we have got Ten Dharmas within us which we have to keep all right. These are the main Ten Commandments.
These Ten Commandments we have to look after, and these are looked after by the people who are these, the Primordial Masters, as you call Them Incarnations Divinely: like Rāja Janaka, like Moses, like Socrates, like Nāṇaka, the last one was the Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. This is the Principle is there, is the Primordial Master.
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But if he is a fanatic, you go outside and tell Muhammad Sāhab to beat him nicely, who will do the job. Shoe-beating is very necessary for all the fanatics. Nice shoe-beating.
But fanatics are one of the most difficult things."
1978-1015 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Zen and Void, Part 1, First Western Seminar, Day 2, Session 2 (during and after tea and coffee), Conference Center, East Hampstead Park (near Workingham, 60 kms W of London), UK

"All the Absolute Truths you can find out through your vibrations, that you can only take, as they are described since long time back. They are described in the Upaniṣhadas, they are described in the Vedas, they are described in the ... uh later ee time when uh uh Śhaṅkarāchārya came in, they are described by Buddha, they are described by Mahāvīra, they are described by all the people, they are described by Christ, by Muhammad Sāhab.
In Namāz that Muhammad Sāhab taught was nothing else but Kuṇḍalinī awakening.
Now if you tell the Muslims they will cut My throat for it.
But it is absolutely that! He never taught them to fight.
And the Sikhs were taught by the same person: Nāṇaka and Muhammad Sāhab were the same people, we can prove it through Kuṇḍalinī. They were the same people.
But the Sikhs and the Muslims are fighting.
And what He told them, "Not to drink," they are doing it.
So, you see there are so many things like that. It's very confusing!"
1978-1030 Public Program, Sahaja Yoga as a Hypothesis, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK (very likely)

"I went to Kashmir, there while going to somewhere I realized that there are many vibrations over here. So I asked the driver whether here is some temple or something like that over here. "Is there some old statue over here?" He said, "There is nothing like that over here." So I asked him to find out. We stopped the car. He said, "Here there is some place of Muslims." So I asked, "What place of Muslims is here? Let us go and see what it is."
When we reached there I asked, "What it is? You have made such a big mosque over here, what it is?" They said, "It is Hazrat Iqbal." A single hair of Muhammad Sāhib has been put over there.
Listening to that I suddenly went into deep meditation.
There were so many vibrations in a single hair. I didn't only know that a single hair has been kept over there, over which these Muslims are fighting with each other.
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The thing which is not live is not religion. And the thing which is dead is waste and calling it a religion is wrong.
What is Hindu Dharma, what is Islam, after coming to Sahaja Yoga you see that every religion is the same beautiful flower and every religion is situated inside you. You are Muslim, Hindu as well as Christian.
You have Muhammad Sāhib inside you, you have Christ inside you and you also have Kṛiṣhṇa inside you.
All these things are not simple lectures but you will have to experiment so I can tell you who was Kṛiṣhṇa and what relation He had with Christ, who was Muhammad Sāhib and what was His relation.
They all are one and we are fighting over Them. I often don't understand what shall I call these fools."
1979-0109 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Kuṇḍalinī yā Cīja hai aura Usakā Jāgraṃ Kaise Hotā Hai (What is Kuṇḍalinī and How is Its Awakening), Bharatiya Vidyā Bhavan, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"Sahaja: saha means with you, ja means born, which is born with you, that is Sahaja Yoga.
We can call this the climax of Sahaja Yoga.
Kṛiṣhṇa has done only Sahaja Yoga, Nāṇak also did only Sahaja Yoga. Muhammad has also done only Sahaja Yoga and Christ also did only Sahaja Yoga.
But the finale of it, when the flower has to turn into a fruit, that is going to happen now. It has to happen now in this modern time. Now the time has come when this will happen.
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They were saying the other day that it is written in Qur'ān, 'Convert all into Muslims at knifepoint.' I said, "I have not read this. It is about Rahmat and Raḥīm and it is about Karīm and karāmāt [refers to supernatural wonders performed by Muslim Saints]. Then how can it be that they say such things?"
This type of blindness for [followers of] Dattātreya Himself who reincarnated [as Prophet Muhammad] in this world‽ We do not hesitate even a little bit, we do not think even a little bit in saying such things about Him. They do not know anything and don't even think, 'Why are we so foolishly saying such things in this way about such a great personality?'
How large-hearted were these people who came into this world to guide humanity!
Do they think they are Arab[s]? Or sometimes I think these are unlucky Hiṃdustānīs, they have never known anything about themselves. Ask them! They do not know about their country, they do not know about their culture. Tomorrow if you ask them about their mother's name, they will not be able to recall it."
1979-0114 Public Program (Hindi), Day 1, Satya kā Anveṣhaṇa (Exploration of Truth), Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"It is surprising that there is a gentleman in Rangoon who is an Avadhūta. Not only in India, but they can be found all around the world. Prophet Muhammad was an Avadhūta. King Janaka was an Avadhūta, so was Nāṇak.
Many of them [Avadhūtas] did a lot of work in this Maharashtra. It is only because of their work here did I take My birth in this place.
Sāī Nāth was the last of them from Maharashtra.
Their work establishes the dharma. Or more like the dharma settles down in that place. They take their form on this earth only to fulfill that goal.
When the human loses his faith in dharma, 'Why should I do this?', when he starts thinking this ways, then the Avadhūtas take birth on this Earth. And wherever they may be, in forests or mountains, dead or alive, all they do is keep working on giving you the validations of dharma.
If you tell lies and start suffering from its consequences, then realize that there is some Avadhūta, sitting on some mountain in the Himalayas, who is responsible for whatever is happening to you. He is the one putting you all right.
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The dharma in humans has at least ten aspects of discipline to it that should be followed, and all Gurus have emphasized that this needs to happen. They could be in the form of Muhammad, Nāṇak or Janak.
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But the concepts of dharma, as this world knows it today, are so complicated and twisted, "I don't drink, I don't even consume garlic." "Is it so? OK, you don't drink, you don't eat garlic, onions, etc., you don't do anything, granted. Then why is your Void catching?" Void meaning where Dattā [Śhrī Dattātreya] resides, in the stomach. "But I am a huge opponent of Muslims." That's it: you have lost your quality of Avadhūta. The Avadhūtas have been offended.
These entities, say Muhammad, or Janaka, or Sāī Nāth, do you think any of these belong to any religion, caste or creed?
Say, we keep a Photograph of Sāī Nāth in our home, who was He? Wasn't He a Muslim? Be truthful.
So if someone becomes a Muslim, he turns bad, how did you form this conclusion? Who was Kabīr Dās? Who was Nāṇak?"
1979-0122 Public Program (Marathi), Ātmyālā Miḍavilyāhśivāya Parameśhwar or Avadhūtas, YMCA Hall, New Link Road, D.N. Nagar, Andheri West (14 kms NW of Mumbai), Maharashtra, India

"This vegetarianism of this extreme type is also not necessary. All right, those who do not need, should not eat. But that does not mean a person cannot achieve spirituality if he eats other things, like Muhammad Sāhab was a great person, Christ was a great person, even Rāma was a Kṣhatriya, Kṛiṣhṇa was a Kṣhatriya.
So only thing you can do is to control your food. By controlling food and all these things you cannot achieve God."
1979-0209 Public Talk for Westerners and Westernized Indians, Holiness Is the Basis of Religion and Spirituality (Religion Is Within Not Without), Program Organized by the Government of India, Day 3, Kovalam (18 kms S of Thiruvananthapuram), Kerala, India

Version 1:
"You might be knowing of Algeria, many Muslim people stay over there. And the people there are very bounded by their religion. Much more than us. And due to that, their children, who became doctors, engineers, architects, they said that they don't want any of this religious rubbish. "You waste your time in all this, read Namāz five times a day, break your heads, do whatever you want, but we are not getting into all this," they say.
It was in such times that a young boy from there happened to come visit Me in London and I gave him his Realization. After Realization, I explained him everything: dharma means what, who is Prophet Muhammad, what is His role in our ascent. Then, who is Christ. Furthermore, who is Rām, Kṛiṣhṇa, what is the meaning of all these Incarnations.
And when he went back, he gathered all his friends and told them that what they thought about God was not true. God does exist. There is an All-pervading Power. The only problem was that they had never recognized their Spirit, so they were wandering about like blind people. And then they gave Realization to five hundred other people.
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Now, living by the dharma doesn't mean making rounds of the temple and reciting the name of God a thousand.
The meaning of dharma has been told by a number of Saints in this country. In this Land of Saints, a number of Gurus have come and have spoken to great lengths about what dharma is, we can't thank Them enough. But we don't follow any of what They have said.
Out of all the Gurus, there have been Ten Important Ones and They have come in this world multiple times. The Prophet Muhammad is an incarnation of Dattātreya. After Muhammad Sāhib, Nāṇak who came on this Earth was an incarnation of Dattātreya too, so was Janak. Likewise Ādināth, who came before Māhavīr, was also an incarnation of Dattātreya. Furthermore, the people of this Ahmednagar are extremely fortunate in the sense that Śhirḍī [84 kms NNW from Ahmadnagar] was the place where Śhrī Sāī Nāth chose to come and stay. He too was an incarnation of Dattātreya. So, it is the same element of the Guru, which keeps reincarnating on this Earth.
They focused on teaching about things pertaining to maintaining the balance of the dharma, They didn't talk much about Self-realization as such, didn't work upon giving knowledge about the Ātmā to people.
The one thing that all of Them had said was to not consume alcohol.
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Now, the chakra on top of that is called that Sahasrāra chakra. When the Kuṇḍalinī pierces this chakra and passes through it, only then can it be said that the person has attained his Self-realization. Christ has called it the Baptism, Muhammad has called it Pīr, it has been said in all the religions that you need to get your Second Birth.
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So, likewise, such unauthorized people claiming to be higher above others have always insulted the Saints and made their lives miserable. Not only in India, but also elsewhere.
Prophet Muhammad was tortured by such people as well. He and His family were tortured so much more than Dñyāneśhwar, actually."
Version 2:
"You might know of Algeria, many Muslim people stay over there. And Muslim people over there are blind followers of faith. Much more than us. And due to that fanaticism, their children, who became doctors, engineers, architects, they said that they don't want any of this rubbish. "You spend your time in all this, read Namāz five times a day, break your heads, or go to Kaaba, do whatever you want, but we are not getting into all this, enough of it."
It was in such times that a young boy visited Me in London and I gave him his Realization. After Realization, I explained him everything: dharma means what, who is Prophet Muhammad, what is His role in our evolution. Then, who is Christ. Furthermore, what is the meaning of all these Incarnations such as Rām, Kṛiṣhṇa.
And when he went back, he gathered all his friends and told them that their idea about God was not true. There is God. There is an All-pervading Power. The only problem was that they did not recognize their Ātmā, so they were wandering about like blind people. But one can get vision. And then he gave Realization to five hundred other people. ......
To live with dharma does not mean parroting the name of God in the temples.
The meaning of being religious has been explained by a number of Saints in this country. In this land of Saints, a number of Gurus have come and have spoken to great lengths about what dharma is, we can't thank Them enough. But we don't follow any of what They have said.
Out of all the gurus, there have been Ten Important Ones and They have come in this world multiple times. Of these the Prophet Muhammad is an Incarnation of Dattātreya. After Muhammad Sāhib, Nāṇak who came on this earth was an Incarnation of Dattātreya too, so was Janak. Likewise Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], who came before Mahāvīr, was also an Incarnation of Dattātreya. After this we were really lucky, specially people from Ahmadnagar, that Sāī Nāth who stayed in Śhirḍī [84 kms NNW from Ahmadnagar], He too is an Incarnation of Dattātreya. So, it is the same element of the Guru, which reappears on this Earth.
And They taught several things regarding the balance of dharma. They didn't talk much about giving Realization as such. They did not work too much on giving knowledge on Self-enlightenment to people.
The one thing He said, that all of [Ten of] Them corroborate on, was not to consume alcohol.
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Now, the chakra on top of that is called Sahasrāra chakra. When the Kuṇḍalinī pierces this chakra, when it passes through the Brahmarandhra, only then can it be said that the person has attained his Self-realization.
Christ has called it the Baptism, Muhammad has called it Pīr, it has been said in all the religions that, "You need to be reborn." You should transform into a dvij.
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So, likewise, such unauthorized people have insulted all the Saints and monks. Not only in our country, but in most of the countries.
Even during the times of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon Him, the unauthorized people tortured and persecuted Him immensely. If we describe that we get to know that when compared to Muhammad Sāhib and family, even Dñyāneśhwara was not tortured so much. They tried to destroy Them totally."
1979-0223 Public Program (Marathi), Kuṇḍalinī Śhakti ani Sat Chakra (Kuṇḍalinī Śhakti and the Seven Chakras), Ahmednagar, Maharashtra, India

"In the same way, Sahaja Yoga has to go to common people, everybody must understand.
Otherwise, people like Christ were crucified, nobody understood Him. People like Kabīra, nobody understood, people like Nāṇaka was tortured, people like Muhammad Sāhab were given poisons, and every one of Them had to just suffer because of the ignorance of the common people.
Today the time has come for common people to realize."
1979-0310 Public Program, Day 1, Session 1 (morning), Creation, Man and His Fulfillment (Universe Is a Beautiful Cosmos), Gāndhī Bhawan, Delhi University, North Campus, GC Narang Road, Timarpur, New Delhi, India

"After that there is Nābhī center. For Nābhī center you know that whatever has happened in the evolution from fish to human being, everything has happened here.
For helping in it many Big Gurus have Incarnated inside us, whom you know from Socrates to Confucius, Moses, Rāja Janak, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak Sāhab, Kabīr, all these Big Gurus, all of Them have worked hard on it and made dharma of human beings. It is the dharma of human beings inside, in the stomach, not outside.
Like dharma of this gold is that it does not get spoiled, it is untarnishable.
In the same way Ten Dharma[s] of human beings are formed inside the stomach."
1979-0312 Public Program (Hindi), Day 3, Session 2 (evening), Mūlādhāra Chakra or Realization of Divine and Spirit, New Delhi, India

"Although after Realization you go beyond religion, you do not have any religion left.
When you believe in Muhammad Sāhab also, also in Nāṇak Sāhab, and in Hazarat ʿAlī also, in Fāṭimah Bi also, and in Sītājī also, also in Jesus Christ, and also in Gaṇeśhjī, then how can you sit in these small compartments of religions?
Then you become dharmātīt, and beyond religions, you also become guṇātīt. Guṇas meaning three: tamoguṇa, rajoguṇa, and sattvaguṇa."
1979-0318 Public Program (Hindi), Day 9, Sahasrāra Chakra, Śhāmiyānā, Garden, Pataudi House, 10 Ashoka Road, New Delhi, India

"So the dharma that has been established in us by God Almighty because if we want to go to the Kingdom of God, then in our freedom we must desire to get to God. If someone tries to pressurize us and says, 'You must ask for God,' then it is of no use, it is not an evaluation. That is why to reach in this state, a person has to seek the God as per his own independent sweet will and not due to any pressure, or any disease or any hardships or any sorrow, but only because of the fact and realizing that, 'It is the only motive of our life to seek God.'
That is why, when we desire for this Divine Gift, then the doors of God Almighty's Divine Blessings open for you, and around the center is a place of Ten Primordial Gurus. These are the Main Gurus which are the Incarnation[s] of Śhri Dattātreya. They are: Socrates, Moses, Muhammad Sāhab, Guru Nāṇak, Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, and Zoroaster. They are all Incarnation[s] of one Incarnation.
There is no difference between Muhammad Sāhab and Guru Nāṇak. When Muhammad Sahab saw that people are taking wrong interpretation of His Dharma and doing everything against the dharma, then He was born again as Guru Nāṇak to correct it. Because He wanted to bring unity among people but you know what happened during Their lives."
1979-0322 Public Program (Hindi), Sahaja Yoga and the Subtle System, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India (other date 0321)

"You can see how difficult it was for Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa. He came to Vṛundāvan from Mathura, stayed there as a common cowherd, took all the troubles onto Himself. Demons used to come again and again to kill Him. How He used His powers of destruction, how He fought with the Kāliya snake, you know about all His life.
You know about Śhrī Rām's life, you know about Christ's life, you know about Muhammad Sāhab's life, you know about Zoroaster's life, how many problems They had to face? How people tortured Them and troubled Them?"
1979-0325 Pūjā (Hindi+English), Chit ke Gaharai (Depth of Your Attention), Seminar, Day 2, Camp, Bordi, Maharashtra, India

"About Me also you can ask questions. There are many ways of recognizing because in this life, you have to recognize. You have never recognized an Incarnation so far. You have to recognize.
That is compulsory and that is done through Sahajs Yoga because unless and until you are realized, how are going to recognize Them also?
But even if you have not recognized Them, there was no need for you to crucify Them or to torture.
Then all the Gurus who came on this Earth, the Real Ones – fakes are never gurus, they are not gurus – the Real Ones that came on this Earth, say, we can say Moses, Abraham, Nāṇak, Muhammad Sāhib, Kabīr, all these are Incarnations of Primordial Master whom we call as Dattātreya.
If They are or not, if Muhammad Sāhib and Guru Nāṇak are the same personality, same people who came in different times, then what justice are we doing to Them? How are we to find out? How are you to believe Me about it?
I will give you an example. There was a Muslim gentleman from Iran who came to see Me, who was suffering from cancer. He asked Me: "Mother, I want to get cured." I said, "You['re] a Muslim?", he said, "Yes, I only believe in Muhammad Sāhib and nobody else!" I said, "This would be something like that, 'I only believe in my nose, and not in anything else.' "
He was such a fanatic and fanaticism brings about the cancer of Nābhī chakra as we call it, the stomach. You will be amazed fanaticism is sin, sinful. It gives you the cancer of stomach.
I asked him, "Will you worship Nāṇak Sāhib?" He said, "No, why should I? I am a Muslim." I said, "Do you know Muhammad Sāhib Himself is angry with you and you have to worship Nāṇak?"
He would not but it happened for months and then he had to accept.
Any extreme behavior of this kind is prohibited in all the religions."
1979-0328 Public Address, Inauguration of The Advent (Guḍhī Pāḍavā Day), FICCI Auditorium, 1 Tansen Mārg, New Delhi, India from Anant Jeevan, Issue 1 (July 1979), Pages 5–12

"Those who recite Gāyatrī mantra, they should ask, 'Are You Gāyatrī?' Are You Sandhyā? Those who believe in Muhammad Sāhab, they should ask, 'Mother, are You Muhammad Sāhab?' Those who believe in Lakṣhmī–Nārāyaṇ, they should ask, 'Mother, are You Lakṣhmī–Nārāyaṇ?' Those who believe in Hanumān, they should ask, 'Mother, are You Hanumān'? Those who believe in Bhairav, they should ask, 'Mother, are You Bhairav?' Those who believe in Śhivjī, they should ask, 'Mother, are You Śhivjī?' Similarly you should ask about Jagadambā, similarly you should ask about Śhrī Rām, similarly you should ask about Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, are You Śhrī Rādhā–Kṛiṣhṇa? Similarly you should ask about Īsā Masīh, ask Me, 'Mother, are You Īsā Masīh?' Similarly, you should ask, 'Mother, are You Kalki?' Ask, 'Mother, are You Ādi Śhakti?' "
1979-0330 Public Program (Hindi), Dhyāna meṃ Śhraddhā kā Mahatva (Importance of Faith in Meditation), the day before the Departure to London, Pune, Maharashtra, India

They have told you that It is called as Kuṇḍalinī.
Of course, they have played havoc with it, you know that. They have really made a mess out, of this word Kuṇḍalinī. They have ruined [it], completely ruined. And that's how they have ruined your inner being is shocking, really shocking.
And the ... in your frantic search you also believed these horrible people who are just out to ruin you.
These people have no ... no relationship with reality. They don't know who is Christ, they don't know who is Muhammad, they don't know who is Nāṇak. They don't know anything else! About the ... uh the Great Incarnations who came on this Earth, they don't want to talk about them! There is no relationship, there is no historical background to what they are saying."
1979-0416 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Āgñyā and Lord Jesus Christ, Phillipa's House, Barnes, SW London, UK

"So, if you think evolution is a religion, then I would say Sahaja Yoga is the religion. If your evolution if you call it as a religion, then Sahaja Yoga is a religion. But is a religion which takes you belo ... beyond your sustenance, beyond your religion, dharmātīt, beyond the dharma.
We have amongst ourselves Hindu[s], Muslims, Christians, all kinds of people, you know that. All these people can feel it within themselves: is the religion in their stomachs, they can feel it. They can find out where is the religion. Because, I say, there, religion in the stomach is looked after by the Deities of Primordial Master whom we call as Dattātreya, in the Sanskrit language.
But does't mean Hinduism. It doesn't mean Hinduism at all. But it is called as Dattātreya in the Sanskrit language, in English is Primordial Master.
He is the same who incarnated on this Earth: as Moses, as Abraham, and, say, incarnated as Muhammad Sāhab, as Rāja Janaka, as Nāṇaka, and also as Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. Can you believe that Muhammad Sāhab is the same as our Nāṇak?
Now in the religion of these people, the Muslims, so-called, and the so-called Sikhs, are fighting amongst themselves.
Can you believe that Mahāvīra and Buddha were the same as Hasan and Husayn? Which we can prove it to you on suh ... on vibrations and on curing people. They were the same people reincarnated just to improve on Themselves. Because people believe into something which They were not, so They were incarnated just to show: that, 'This was wrong. No, no, this was, I never said it! This was the thing.'
In the story of ah ... Nāṇaka, it was said that once He was sleeping, so they said, "What? You are preaching that there should be unity among Hindus and Muslims, and You are putting Your Feet towards the Mecca!" He said, "Really?" Then He turned His Feet on the other side. He said, "Mecca has moved!"
He was the religion, but not His followers. They drink, He allowed them to drink, did He? When Muhammad Sāhab said, "Don't drink," that means they make a fanatic thing out of all that."
1979-0507 Public Program, Sahaja Yoga and Christianity, Bharatiya Vidyā Bhavan, London, UK

"But uh how to find out and all that we have lots of things of fighting it out. And the ... in this the greatest contribution is done by-ee Muhammad Sāhab Himself who has given lots of ways and methods, you see, real gross ones, to remove ... remove these gross things [laughing:] from you. He's really done a good job.
And the greatest uh mantra for this is Lord's Prayer. Because Christ is the One who removes all our negativity.
So, Lord's Prayer is the best for people to put Āgñyā chakra all right. And it will uh work, it will be done, after Realization."
1979-0524 Public Program, Seeking and Rationality, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

Sahaja Yogi: Like uh Islam, Muhammad Sāhab said that: "Now I am the last Prophet. Now nobody is going to come and tell you." Is it?
Śhrī Mātājī: He just wanted to frighten people, that they should take to ... mhh dharma. So He said like that.
Now these Islam people are using it as a ...
But, imagine, anybody who says that, 'I will never come to you,' and, 'I never do that,' like a Father, who sees these horrible people again working it out in a different way, so He has to come back!
I mean that. The Incarnations are not obstinate people.
He must have said it with the understanding that, "These people will do this, because, 'If I tell them they will accept religion properly.' "
But He sees all of them drinking, all of them going down, doing all kinds of wrong things in the name of God, so He has to come back.
How can you be obstinate?
I only do like that many a times and say, 'I will never go and meet you now,' then I go. Is there is love, is to what can you do? You forgive.
1979-0527 Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, TM, False Gurus, Industrial Revolution, Christ, Go Slowly with New People, Seminar, Day 1, Āśhram, 8, Hamilton Road, Dollis Hill, London NW10 1NX, UK

"But still, as you can see in the life of Christ, that coming of Christ was declared much before Christ came in by the Prophets who made prophecies. All these Prophets belong to the category of the Gurus I am talking about.
So, all over the world three types of movements were on. For example, the scientist[s] on the right-hand side, we can say, and the left-hand side are the devotees of God who sing the praise of God. And in the center there were people like Moses, like Abraham, who came on this earth just to prophesize, just to protect the devotees of God.
Now this middle movement of evolution, today, has reached its peak. Because all the Incarnations have arrived now, and have done Their job within you. They have occupied Their position within you, in your awareness, on these different centers.
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So today we are here to know that within us all these Incarnations exist, and the force that really brought forth, really manifested, who live like human beings and work like Gurus, that force which existed in this area, which created religion within us.
Religion, as we understand, organized religion, is not the religion. But the religion means: your sustaining power. You are a human being because there are ten sustaining powers within you.
So, They came to sustain us and to give us full idea about these Ten Powers and to establish us in our religion as a human being.
So these Gurus, who lived in that area, worked out the sustainace [sustenance] and helped us.
And this is one of the greatest forces we have got, which resides within us.
And whatever They have said has a very great meaning.
Actually, we should say the Main Gurus are ten, but there are many other Gurus.
And these Ten Gurus could be described as Rāja Janaka, then Moses, Abraham, and the in modern times you can say Muhammad Sāhab, and even up to Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, in Śhirḍī, that force came in, for a short time, and then He disappeared. Nobody knows how He came there, He lived there and He died. Also, if you know Nāṇaka, He was also the same force, the same Primordial Master, who was born on this Earth.
Now, this is not the time to tell about individual people. But, I think, one day I will talk to you only on this subject of the Gurus.
So, these Gurus first started under the Primordial Master Himself, He was called as Dattātreya. ......
There's one more point I would like to tell you, that they have not yet gone here, but here [unclear], there are the two uh more small uh-uh-uh chakras: one that belongs to, uh uh which we call as the Sūrya – Sūrya is the-uh-uh uh uh, means the Sun, the Sun center – and the another as the Moon center on the left-hand side. And these two are uh governed or, we can say, is uh bestowed upon by two great uh-uh-uh people, who are the Disciple Elements.
And They, disciple elements were first, were born to Śhrī Rāma and Śhrī Sītā as the-ee Lav and Kuśh. And then They incarnated many a times on this Earth as disciple. One of Them is, we can say, ah ... was uh Śhaṅkarāchārya, another was Kabīra, uh like that. Then, we can say, later on, uh like, uh before Śhaṅkarāchārya, they came as Buddha and Mahāvīra. Then Śhaṅkarāchārya, and then, uh I told you, which is? Uh after Śhaṅkarāchārya came ... the Advent of Hasan and Husayn, who were the grandsons of Prophet.
So these have been incarnating, and they have been moving from one uh-uh-uh side to another and telling people that, "This is extreme, leave it." "This is the extreme, leave it. Come in the center, and be in the center." That has been Their job. And they are the ones who are, sort of, imparting you that awareness by you become a perfect disciple.
And the ... this is a very important point because it comes, quite often, that uh-uh-uh we do not understand.
Like Prophet Muhammad said that: "I am the last Prophet." All right, He did say He was the last Prophet.
Supposing I say, I am the last person to come here. All right I would say just to frighten you that, 'h-oh, you better take to it otherwise this is the last time I am telling you!' [Laughs.]
But it is never that!
Because when He wa... died He found out: that, you see, these people are madcaps. 'I didn't tell them this, what are they doing out of Me?' So, He said, 'I better go back again.'
And He came as Nāṇaka. And He told them, that: "Hindu and Muslims are same people, following the same religion, why are you fighting among yourselves?" See, They came for that unity.
Then as Nāṇaka He came. So, in Nāṇaka's system also the Sikhism came in and they started a warrior class and this and that. I mean imagine, the Sikhism ended up by having wars within Muslims and Hindus.
So, then He came as Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth to teach them.
Now, this is not a very important thing that, say Muhammad Sāhab said, "I am the last." Say He is the last, all right, even take that position. Who are you to Him? How are you related? Through what? What is your authority? How do you appropriate Him to yourself? Because you say you are Muslims, so what? How did you become Muslims? Did you get your certificate from God?"
1979-0530 Public Program, A Higher Life, A World of Bliss and Joy (The Three Paths of Evolution), Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"Self is most important.
That's why He [Lord Buddha] believed this a ... anīśhwaratv, means atheism. He said, "There's no God. Only thing, the Self is to be achieved."
Naturally. Because there was nobody to tell Him that, 'You have achieved through the Grace of the Primordial Mother.'
So He was to be born again as one of the sons of Fāṭimah Bi, who was the daughter of Muhammad Sāhab. Then again He was to be born as Mārkaṇḍeya, and again as Śhaṅkarāchārya: just to neutralize what He has been preaching.
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The thing that really gives you the balance is the sustainance [sustenance], is the sustainance [sustenance], dharma. If you do not have that, then you could go, shoot off like a pendulum from this side to that.
But in dharma also there could be a problem, and that is one of the worst possible, is of fanaticism. So, I mean, if you try to make the dharma a fanatic idea.
Like none of these Incarnations, like Muhammad Sāhab who was a[n] Incarnation of the Primordial Master, and all others like Him, Moses, Abraham, any One of Them who came on this Earth, ever thought of fanaticism. Never they realized, that when they told, 'Don't do this,' 'Don't do that,' some sort of people will take up upon themselves that, 'We are the chosen ones. We are the great.' I mean, this They could never understood. And whenever They found it was happening again They took birth. Again They took birth to tell people: 'This is not dharma.'
To form any kind of a cult or an organization and religion is against God! Is blasphemous!
How can you organize God? You cannot."
1979-0611 Public Program, How Aspects of God Are Expressed within Us, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"And you are not to bow to anyone. That's why it's prohibited to bow to anyone who is not a realized Soul.
It went to such a limit, at the time of Muhammad Sāhab, that He saw to it, He said that, "Don't bow your head too much. Just don't bow." Because He started talking about the abstract.
We ... the trouble was, in the beginning, this, they knew about the Deities, they started talking about the Deities. But when they found that people were not going to the real Deities but must just creating Deities of their own, and they were worshiping those Deities and just doing all ritualism, and no essence in it, so they said, "All right, let us talk of the essence."
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Now when They said, "Don't drink," you say, 'Oh-oh, that's out-of-dated. You see, there's Muhammad Sāhab, was no good. He told us not to drink.' Nāṇaka said, "Don't drink."
Now, smoking, you see the results of smoking, now what's happening with smoking. It goes against uh uh your Viśhuddhi. Because, you see, that is the place of Kṛiṣhṇa, and smoking started much later. You see, when He was much earlier, smoking started later on.
That's why Nāṇak Sāhab has talked about it much more.
But uh Muhammad Sāhab did see this point, He did see. So He said, "All ... all the inter... intoxicants and all habits are to be discarded. All such things must be discarded." So, He also wanted mhh yeah ...
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All these addictions must be given up. He said it, very clearly: "No addictions are allowed," according to Him.
But you see, how you make uh-uh-uh uh-uh fuss about things.
Like Muhammad Sāhab and all these Gurus, all these Great Incarnations of the Primordial Master who was Ādi Dattātreya, Ādinātha [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], They taught you how to maintain your religion, your sustainance [sustenance], your balance.
So, immediately the Christians. Because Christ didn't talk much about it because Moses had talked about it, Abraham had talked about it. So Christ did not talk, so they said, "All right. So Christians can drink." Just imagine.
This is a loophole.
That's how they became Christians perhaps. Because they thought that if ... uh they were belonged to the Jews, you see, then they would have ... uh they wouldn't be able to drink.
But Jews drink like Hell. Jews also drink now! I mean the Muslims drink the most, you see.
And worst are the Sikhs: who are prohibited from drinking and smoking, they can beat all your scotch people here, you see. All your scotch whiskey goes into their stomachs [laughter], all these things, and they grow in this, this beard, thinking that they are great Sikhs going around, you see."
1979-0616 Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Bala Kanayson's House, Rosemary Road, Tamworth (31 kms NE of Birmingham), UK

"You see, there are four types of Incarnations.
One is the Incarnation of the Mother, all right? She can be a wife [mother] or a brother [sister], of a Guru. She can be a wife ... never a wife of a Guru. As a daughter of a Guru. It's a, like Muhammad Sāhab's daughter, Fāṭimah, was Ādi Śhakti Herself."
1979-0617 Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Bala Kanayson's House, Rosemary Road, Tamworth (31 kms NE of Birmingham), UK

"Around that, is that area where actually it exists in the stomach of God, we can say, this is the Bhavasāgara. This is what we have to cross. You see there's a Void, from there to there is a Void, and this we have to cross. And this is the thing which is crossed by the Kuṇḍalinī awakening.
Now what happens? That around that uh ... that ... water-like thing that you see there, see that is the one where Ten ... the Primordial Masters were born, Gurus, Primordial Gurus. Now They were incarnated of innocence of all this three aspects. And They were incarnated on this Earth, say, from Abraham, Moses, then we had uh-uh-uh ... up to Muhammad Sāhab we can say, then we can say Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, then Nāṇaka, Janaka, all these people incarnated as Gurus.
Now what do They do? They, They, They give you sustainance [sustenance]. They give you sustainance [sustenance].
Now, sustenance is ... is ... for human beings is different. For animals is different.
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And this sustenance is maintained by the Gurus in that area. And They look after us: They are born again and again, again and again, to tell us about it.
They, people might say, 'What's wrong in drink?' Why did Muhammad Sāhab say, "Do not drink," Nāṇak Sāhab said, Moses said, that, "You should not drink?" For why [They] did this?
Now there is a reason, which you cannot stop it. If I tell you, 'Don't drink,' you come and drink.
I'll give you [a] very good reason for that, absolutely scientific, absolutely scientific. But you won't stop. So what should I do?
You see, which is the other way is: 'Why do you drink?' First of all I should find out the reason for it.
I find out the reason: that because you get bored, that's why. So, because you do not want to face the reality, you have an escape."
1979-0618 Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Questions and Answers, Jim Proctor's House, Cookridge (10 kms NW of Leeds), UK

"And that's how you will find that all the Incarnations who came on this Earth were killed, crucified, poisoned, like Muhammad Sāhab was poisoned, or ah harassed, or sent to forests like Rāma, and Kṛiṣhṇa tortured by many rākṣhasas who went to kill Him. All sorts of thing[s]. I mean, there is no Incarnation who has not suffered."
1979-0620 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Darkness and Falsehood (Any Extreme Behavior Is Only Caused by Spirits and Possessed Condition), Āśhram, 8, Hamilton Road, Dollis Hill, London NW10 1NX, UK

"Whatever I'm saying, whatever I'm explaining, has been explained right from Socrates, Christ, Muhammad Sāhab, all of Them have said this.
And I would request you to be humble about it, and take your gift which is for you."
1979-0625 Public Program, Seeking the Life Beyond, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"Do not identify yourself with all false ideas. Say, if you are a Christian then, 'I am a Christian. Only Christ is the One.' Yes, He is the One, no doubt, but He means many things. Or if I'm a Muslim, then, 'Muhammad Sāhab is the only One.' Or if I'm a Jew, then, 'I ... I do not believe in Christ.'
There are many like these madcaps, all around. You are not that type."
1979-0716 Public Program, How Truthful Are We about Seeking, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"And when the Kuṇḍalinī rises, She awakens all these Deities.
For example, Muhammad Sāhab is in the Void. All the Guru's like Muhammad Sāhab, all the Prophets, are in the Void, here, in the stomach.
Because, you see, these people have not arrived I haven't got My map [Chakra Chart] here but they might, could be arriving any time, then we can have a look at it.
And like these centers that are here, we have all these Deities, these Leaders who came to save us, on this Earth. We call it in Sanskrit Daśhāvatāras [Ten Incarnations].
And then we have so many Prophets like Muhammad Sāhab and like Moses, Abraham. All these are Great Prophets. They are all settled within ourselves here.
You will be amazed that They are in a dormant condition.
When this Kuṇḍalinī rises upward, She gives power to all of Them, and They start working. And then They open out here on the head, on top."
1979-0720 Public Program, Why Are We Here, What Is Our Purpose, Cardiff, Wales, UK

"All this has to be integrated. All the great religions which have been propounded in the growth of human beings, which have substantially helped in the growth of human beings, which are the substratum of their living, has to be integrated in that happening.
For example, I meet, supposing, a Hindu, then he says, "Mother, how do You talk of Christ? We don't believe in Christ." Now you are a very, very great person not to believe in Christ. Who are you not to believe in Christ? What do you think of yourself? What do you mean by saying that you don't believe in Christ? Do you know it is blasphemous to say such horrible things about any Great Incarnation on this Earth?
There are some who say, "We do not believe in Moses, or in Guru Nāṇaka, or in Muhammad Sāhib." Who are you? 'I don't believe,' 'I don't believe.' What is your belief? What-what, on what it is based? Why do you say such things? What do you know about Them?
Only by going to churches or going, going to these mosques or going to these synagogues! They are blind, making you blind. What have you achieved but nothing but stark fanaticism? It's a disease! It's sickness!
Just come in the Kingdom of God, and you will see that They are all seated there on the dais. They are all together and you like fools are fighting. Did They ever say that?
For example, when Christ cam ... came, did He say that, 'Moses was wrong'? Did He say so? When Nāṇaka came, did He say that, 'Muhammad was wrong'? Did any one of these great Saints say so?
Then who are you to denounce Them?
This is one of the greatest hurdles of so-called seekers."
1979-0724 Public Program, We Have to Seek our Wholesomeness, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"See, when Muhammad Sāhab taught people how to do Namāz, they all used to laugh at Him. What He taught was nothing but the Kuṇḍalinī's rising. He just taught the Kuṇḍalinī rising. And by Kuṇḍalinī rising, He wanted people to get Realization.
But they all went wrong because there was nobody self-realized to do all that job except for Him or His uh son-in-law, His daughter or His grandsons. The rest were all good-for-nothing people perhaps, or maybe it declined after some time.
And the whole system of Namāz became just a, what you call a formal stuff, and nobody knows why, what it is like. But they are just doing it because they are told. Nobody laughs at it now! When it was genuine everybody laughed at it."
1979-0806 Public Program, Self-realization and Fulfillment, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

"When Śhrī Rām came, people said that they accepted Paraśhurām, when Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa came they said, they accepted Śhrī Rām, and at the time of Śhrī Nāṇaka, they accepted Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa. When Christ was here they accepted Abraham.
All of Them had taken human form. But it is all the play of buddhi: how interesting it is!
Now, I have come and people are accepting Śhrī Sāī Nāth.
But when He lived here, He did not even get anything to eat. Why was it so? He was also a human being. As long as He was alive, He too was considered useless and tortured. But when He died, He was regarded as Bhagavān.
What is the reason of this all? Why has man been like this?
You will have water of the Ganges, where She flows. If She is flowing here, will you say, 'We do not accept Her as the Ganges!'? There may be nothing at the place where She was flowing earlier, or maybe only a nullah [ravine] at present. If you want to take it as the Ganges, you go your way. If the Ganges is flowing at this place, why not accept it?
It is not easy to understand human intellect. It is the most difficult job in the world! It is easy to understand God, because He is what He is. He does not have such double dealings. Man has a variety of qualities, not just double. All animals from snakes and scorpions to elephants, horses and lions are residing in him. You will not understand at all, why his brain is working in this way.
Now when the Ganges is flowing why don't you take water from Her?
Imagine this plug has been connected here. Will you connect in its place a plug which is out of order? It is quite pragmatic.
I cannot understand what hallucination is there on human intellect, that he does not accept the Truth which he is seeing but accepts something that is not seen? Its reason was understood long back and that is ahaṅkār [ego]. Man has too much of ego.
If you had accepted Śhrī Rāma in His days, He would have told you to get your Kuṇḍalinī awakened and get the Realization and get established in Sahaja Yoga.
Had you recognized Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, He would not have played Sahaja Yoga in Gokul, but would have given you the Realization and told you to practice Sahaja Yoga.
If Śhrī Nāṇak had been accepted, there was no need for Him to break His head telling you to do different things. He would have simply taught Sahaja Yoga, but very few understood Him in His days.
Now, when He is not here, you have built gurudwārās in His name.
When Muhammad is not here mosques have been made, because they think now Muhammad Sāhib is in their hands.
Now Rāma is in their hands, and they can make His temple and say, 'His is our temple, this Rāma is our property. We have authority over Him and whatever you have brought, all money and other things, offer them to this idol.'
You say all this because you think you are the authority of this idol. It is sheer ego because of which man thinks, that he can keep God in his control and for that he is making all the show. Every time the same show was repeated."
1979-0818 Public Program (Hindi), Ātmā and Paramātma, Saradār Patel Vidyalaya (School), Lodi Estate, New Delhi, India

"You take the religion of Christians. Jesus Christ told that, "I am the Gate," "I am the Way." Śhrī Jesus Himself was the Way and Gate. But He didn't use the word Kuṇḍalinī.
Now if someone says that, 'Is there the knowledge of Kuṇḍalinī in Muslim religion?', I would say, 'Yes, it is there completely.' Namāz means nothing else other than this. How to raise the Kuṇḍalinī is only told in the procedure of Namāz. Muhammad Sāhab told that stretch both of your hands on knees and pray through Namāz.
Then everybody used to laugh. 'Why to do [it]?' Now today we cannot even talk to the followers of Muhammad Sāhab.
Muhammad Sāhab was Incarnation of Ādi Guru Dattātreya. But how were the circumstances you should see. The Incarnation of Dattātreya was not respected. People did not understand. Yet He told about Namāz.
You pray like Namāzis, all the methods of praying by Namāz awaken your Kuṇḍalinī."
1979-0924 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Marathi), Kuṇḍalinī, Śhrī Śhivaśhakti and Śhrī Viṣhṇuśhakti, Navarātri Celebrations (3rd Day), Amar Hind Mandal, West Dadar, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"As Paigambar [Prophet] Muhammad wrote about awakening of the Kuṇḍalinī and the ways of protecting oneself from wicked [satanic] powers, so also Jesus Christ told in very lucid manner about the powers in us as well as the weapons.
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People crucified Jesus Christ because of their ego. They could not conceive of an idea that some human being can appear on the Earth as an Incarnation of God. Their intellectual pride could not accept this idea and they rejected the Truth because of the ego.
What was the bad deed for which Jesus was crucified? He had on the contrary cured many people of their ailments. He preached the Truth and taught many good things to the people. He showed them the way to live a very cultured life. He always preached Love.
In spite of this, the people tortured Him. But they would bow before those who teach filthy and rotten things and make a fool of them. What a height of stupidity!
These days any Tom, Dick or Harry becomes a guru, robs the people, squeezes money from them. Such persons are held in high esteem.
On the contrary, if a good person, who stands by the Truth, wishes to show the true path, the people not only won't listen to him but assault him.
To educate such very stupid people God Almighty sent His beloved Son, Jesus Christ, on this Earth. But the people crucified Him.
They have been, ever since, repeatedly doing the same thing. If you read, you will find that whenever God incarnated, or any Sage or Saint took birth on this Earth, the people have harmed them and tortured them. Instead of learning from them, they behaved with them stupidly. We will notice the same story about Śhrī Gyāneśhwara and Śhrī Tukārāma, the great Saints of Maharashtra. Similar treatment was meted out to Śhrī Guru Nāṇaka and Prophet Muhammad.
Man always runs away from the Truth and tries to embrace the untruth."
1979-0927 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Hindi), Kuṇḍalinī and Lord Jesus Christ, Navarātri Celebrations (6th Day), Hinduja Auditorium, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"This is the only country in the whole world which is Yoga-oriented! Do you understand the importance of this country? Not only that it is Yoga-oriented, but also, also it is a Puṇya Bhūmi, here all the Great Saints have come and [unclear lived].
Even Zoroaster, whom Parsis worship, is nothing but an Incarnation of Dattātreya, and you know how we worship Him in our Sahaja Yoga, how we worship Muhammad Sāhab in our Sahaja Yoga, how we understand where He stands within us!"
1979-0929 Public Address, Joy (Poverty), Public Felicitation and Advent Seminar (8th Day of Navarātri), Sunderbhai Hall, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"You will be amazed, I was ... and we went to Kashmir and we were going in a car, and suddenly in a jungle, I felt tremendous vibrations is. And I told My husband, "There must be some sort of a big temple here or must be some living Deity that has come out of the Earth, must be something." So I asked the driver, "Is there any temple?" He said, "No temple here, there's no temple." I said, "No, is not possible. There must be something." So I said, "All right you follow this way," and we went nearer and nearer and it became hotter and hotter, in the sense cooler and cooler, because you start feeling cooling [laughing:] with the uh with the vibrations. And amazement came to Me. Uh the driver said: "Yes, that is true! There is a big place here called as Hazratbal [9 kms NE of Srinagar, Jammu and Kashmir]. And one hair of Muhammad Sāhab is kept here." And when we went in, they were very kind to Me, suddenly I don't know what happened to them, they didn't ask Me I was Hindu, Muslim or anything, just took us inside and everything. And I was just in full enjoyment of that place, with one hair of Muhammad Sāhab!"
1979-1203 Public Program, Session 1 (morning), Realization Is Not of the Intellect, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

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"For example, there was a doctor from Iran who was suffering from cancer, he came to see Me in London. He had the cancer of the stomach.
In this part resides all the Ten Great Masters, or the Primordial Masters, the Incarnations of the Primordial Master.
He ... ah ... I told ... I asked him ... uh-uh-uh what religion was he following, he said he was a ... uh-uh-uh Muslim, and out and out Muslim. I said, "What does that mean?", so he said, "It means only Muhammad was the only last Prophet, that cannot be any other Prophet." I said, "How do you know? But how are you so cocksure about it? How can you [laughing:] claim that He was the last Prophet?"
Moreover his cancer was due to that kind of a fanaticism within his stomach. I told him: "You have to believe in other Prophets also."
We had a Prophet in India called Guru Nāṇak, who was the Incarnation of the same. Abraham, Moses, all of Them were the Incarnation of the same Principle.
But he would not accept it. I said, "I can't cure your cancer."
So he went back.
But when it comes to life, you understand.
And he came back to Me. He said, "All right, I'll accept, and I'll take the name of Guru Nāṇak." I told him, "Muhammad Sāhāb Himself is angry with you for behaving like this. Because He was not a fanatic like you!" And when he did that, he got all right."
1980-0416 Public Program, Day 1, Paris, France

"Apart from that, there is [a] third type of Incarnations which worked [pointing to the Void on the Chakra Chart:] in this gap: to sustain us. These are Ten Pri... Primordial Masters, the Ādi Guru. These people incarnated on this Earth to give us our sustainance [sustenance], our religion as they call it. They gave us those Ten Religions or sustainance [sustenance] which is important for a human being.
This Principle of Primordial Master incarnated as Abraham, as Moses, as Muhammad Sāhab, as Janaka, as Nāṇaka, and recently, till recently, the One who is no more a now, is Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth.
[During the translation helps with the enumeration:] Muh... mhh. Socrates. Nāṇaka.
Yes.
Now, these people are Incarnation[s] of the one Principle, that is Primordial Master.
The energy or the power with which They work[ed] is either a sister or a daughter: is a very pure relationships.
If you read Their teachings you will find [that] They are saying the same things. Because They were worried about our sustainance [sustenance]."
1980-0419 Public Program, Day 4, Spiritual Evolution of Man, Paris, France

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"To normalize you, all these Great Saints were born on this Earth, in this Void of the Big Primordial Being. And they exist within us, though they are not awakened as yet.
We have had mainly Ten of Them. In India, we can call Them, from a very long time, as Ādināth, who was thousands of year[s] back. I have told you Socrates, Moses, Abraham, then Rāja Janaka. Then we had, later on, Muhammad Sāhab, then Nāṇaka. Then the last, one of Them, was Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. He was another Primordial Master, a great man.
They are the Incarnations of the One Personality! They said the same thing and same thing and same thing: how to sustain yourself. Their job was not to give you Realization, but to sustain you: to make you capable of your Realization, to make you a proper recipient of God's blessings as realized Souls.
If the pot is not all right, if it has all the holes in it, what's the use of pouring Ganges into it?
So They clogged all the points, and said that, "This should not be done."
But as we have made mess of everything, we have made mess of Them also. All of us! Whether you are English, Indians or this thing doesn't matter. Whether you are Christians, Muslims or a Sikh or anything doesn't matter. All of us have made a mess of Them by just disobeying. We have really disobeyed Them, because we have a freedom to disobey. We have molded Them as we liked!"
1980-0613 Public Program, Something within Us which Makes Us Seek Something Beyond, Stratford, East London, London, UK

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"Then some people are, of course, there are some people who know about these things and also they work out Kuṇḍalinī.
But for example, now you will be amazed, here fifty percent people are here sitting who can raise the Kuṇḍalinī, who are realized Souls. Fifty percent people are here in this hall! So, it can work out.
So far, you see, those who are in the market, I should [laughing:] say, I have not seen even one who has been, but those who are hiding themselves are realized Souls, lots of them are there. And the ... they came to see Me and I went to see them and ... I mean we are in one unison. And their idea about people is very funny and they think that you people will harm them. And you'll never listen to them because you like circus and you like all artificial things and you have always crucified people who have been truthful, you have always uh murdered them, you have always given them poison, like Socrates or Muhammad Sāhab, so they are literally frightened of coming down. And the ... they have told Me, "Mother that You work for twelve years then [laughing:] we'll come down." Now already ten years I've worked, so in two years later, I hope, they are willing to come down.
They have ... some of them have lost their limbs and suffering quite a lot. It has been a very sad thing.
But do, people do go to them, see them, and sometimes one ... once in a year they meet people."
1980-0715 Public Program, What We Are Wanting Is the Reality, Cambridge, UK

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"These Statutes were given by all the Gurus: take Them from Socrates onward, Moses, Abraham, Dattātreya, Janaka, up to, say, Nāṇaka, Muhammad Sāhab, and take up to the point where it was only about hin ... hundred years back, you can say, at the most, was Sāī Nāth.
All of Them have said that: "You have to lead a moral life." None of Them have said that, 'You do not get married,' that, 'You do not talk to your wife,' that, 'You have no relationship with your wife.' All this is nonsensical! "Lead a moral life." "
1980-0727 Guru Pūjā (Guru Pūrṇimā Day), Statutes of the Lord (You Do Not Harm Anyone, The Testimony of the Truth, Develop Detachment, Lead a Moral Life) and Promise that You Will Be a Guru Worthy of Your Mother (Today I Authorize You to Be the Gurus and You Have a Very Supreme Guru), Temple of All Faiths (now demolished, 11c Pond St), Belsize Park, Hampstead, London, UK

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"Now, all the Gurus, all the Gurus who came, say from ... we can start from Socrates, then Abraham, Moses, this is the Guru Tattwa, is the Principle of Master, Primordial Masters. The Principle is born again and again. In India we can say the Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], we had one Ādināth, the Guru long time back. Then we had Dattātreya, we had uh Janaka, Nāṇaka, Sāī Nāth.
We had in the Middle East Muhammad Sāhab, Lao Tze in China, Confucius.
All these Great Principles of Gurus who were born, They had one job to do is to establish your dharma. Their job was not to give you Realization.
You must understand: everyone has one's own job.
See, Mine is a horrible job [laughing:] because I have to do everybody's jobs.
But Their job was just to establish your dharma. They came at that time in those places where it was needed the most.
So, these Ten Principles, as I told you, They established [dharma].
They are created in the Void.
As you see here the Void part, this part is made out of the water element. So, whatever miracles They did, had something to do with water, like They could create water anywhere They wanted to. They would not cure people. All of Them have created water in the desert or in the places where ... like in ... Nāṇaka has created a Pan̄jā Sāhab they call it, or everywhere They have been able to create water. Whatever They touched, They could create water out of it.
Water is the life, life force which sustains us. Without water we cannot live! The is the sustainance [sustenance].
But, They actually are symbolized in an ocean, in the ocean, because They give us the salt, the salt of life, which gives us the sustainance [sustenance]. If you see the salt, if we do not have salt in our body, we'll have no sustainance [sustenance]."
1980-0728 Public Program, The Principle of Guru (Moderation Is the Way We Really Solve the Problem and The Innocence Is in the Center), Sea is the Guru (The Sea Is to Be Worshiped and So Much to Learn from the Sea) and Your Dharma Is the Way Your Attention Is (Dharma Is Balancing), Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

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Sahaja Yoginī translator: Zen.
Śhrī Mātājī: Oh, great! But you cannot practice without Realization. Zen means: Realization first.
The same thing with us: you can't follow the Zen is Sahaja Yoga. What ... what Zen has taught is Sahaj Yog. Lao Tze, same thing. Is the same. What Muhammad has taught is the same. What Christ has said is the same. 1980-1128 Public Program, Day 2, Paris, France

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"Moses, Abraham, Confucius, Socrates, Muhammad, Nāṇak, Janak, Lao Tze, these are the Primordial Masters, the Principle of Primordial Masters, the Ādi Gurus, who incarnated on this Earth to teach us how to keep our sustainance [sustenance]. They taught against all alcohols and strong things."
1981-0402 Public Program, Day 1, The Pure Power of Desire or Aim of Seeking, Royal Exhibition Building, Carlton Gardens, 9 Nicholson Street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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"I'll tell you one example, a simple example. There was a gentleman from Iran, he was a doctor, he came to see Me. I mean, it is now we cannot contact him because he's in Iran. But he came to see, Me he was a Muslim. And I told him that: "Muhammad Sāhab was born as Nāṇak Sāhab in India." He could not believe it. He said, "How can it be?"
Though Nāṇak Sāhab had said it, in a way, because Nāṇak Sāhab was sleeping, and somebody told Him that, "You are placing Your Feet towards Mecca." He said, "All right, I'll turn My Fee... Feet to's other side," and the Mecca came that side.
He said, "I can't believe it! I can't believe it." I [he] said, "But Muhammad Sāhab has said that He is the last." I said, "I'm not sure of that, but maybe He must have decided to come back, the way people are."
He could not believe it! And he had stomach cancer, which is caused by one of the reasons is fanaticism.
I told him, "You have to believe in Him. He was one of the Incarnations of the Primordial Master and He was the same, Abraham was the same, Moses was the same, Socrates was the same, and you have to believe it." He said, "I can't believe it." I said, "I can't cure you."
Then he went back and he was very sick. His wife said, "Now, what is there? After all, you see, we became Muslims because our parents were Muslims. And they told us that, 'Muhammad Sāhab was the last.' After all you are to be saved."
Then he came and he said, "All right, Mother, whatever You say, I'm going to say." I said, "Now you pray to Nāṇak Sāhab, instead of Muhammad Sāhab, because it is Muhammad Sāhab who is angry with you."
He got cured. He's still living. He got cured.
Is so simple. We can't believe it: it is so fantastic. It is worth seeing yourself with your own eyes."
1981-0814 Public Program, The Scientific Viewpoint, Quaker Meeting House, 40 Bull Street, Birmingham B4 6AF, West Midlands, UK

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"[Pointing down from Viśhuddhi chakra to Nābhī chakra on the Chakra Chart:] The connection is that this seeking [slowly makes three and a half clockwise circles inside the Void around the Nābhī chakra on the Chakra Chart:] goes in developing and there are Ten Principles which are described as the Ten Commandments, you can say, or we have got Ten Sūtras is, in Sanskrit language they are called as Ten Sūtras.
Gāndhījī [laughing:] put one more, by saying that, 'We should use only Indian ... Indian things, not foreign things, because then they will dominate us.' So he put ekādeśha [ekādaśha=eleven], he put one more.
But there are Ten, which are here, which are described as [the] Ten Commandments in the Bible.
And [doing a clockwise bandhan from right top to bottom and to left top inside the Void on the Chakra Chart:] these are the Ten Primordial Masters who were born on this Earth. Say we can start from Socrates, then we can think of other, in India was Dattātreya, is the ... Dattātreya is the essence, and He is born as Socrates, He is born as Lao Tze, He is born as Abraham, as Moses, He is born as, up till now we can say, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇaka, latest is the Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī. He is the One who [pointing with one more circle inside the Void on the Chakra Chart:] represents, They all represent, this Primordial Master's Principle of Religion."
1981-0928 Public Program, Day 5, Christ Church (United Methodist), 524 Park Avenue, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.

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"Today I would like to say about this chakra especially that is the ... what we call the Nābhī chakra, is the central path of our evolution where you start your seeking and youge [you] cross over to [the] other side.
Now, surrounding this you will find there is the Ocean of Illusion. And this Ocean of Illusion was governed by a Deity, by a special powerful personality whom we call as Dattātreya – is the Primordial Master. And He incarnated on this Earth many a times. At the time of Christ, and even before that, He incarnated as, say, Abraham, Moses, Socrates, Lao Tze. Later on, He incarnated as Muhammad Sāhab, then the same Great Principle incarnated as Nāṇaka, then the same Principle at the last incarnated as Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī.
So the same Great Principle of this Primordial Master has incarnated because without a master, how will you be taken away from in ... this illusion? How you are going to be exposed to that reality which you do not feel?
What has to happen to you is that you have to become more sensitive, more open, awakened, enlightened to feel that's All-pervading Power around you.
Now, these [masters] came again and again and told you that you must look after your dharma.
Dharma doesn't mean any religion that is being established in the names of these people, because human beings know how to make a pickle out of everyone. They are great 'experts'.
All of Them in essence are one and the same.
But like flowers on the same tree can be taken away from time to time and then when they become ugly and they become completely spoilt, then people can claim, 'This is my flower,' 'This is my flower.' Everybody has become a contractor of this thing.
Actually these people belong to the whole universe, They are universal beings and They came on this Earth to give us a sustainance [sustenance] within us, a sustainance [sustenance].
Dharma means a sustainance [sustenance], that is we can say, that is quality that is ... that is human."
1981-1015 Public Program, Day 4, Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ, 18480 Nordoff Street, Panorama City (32 kms N-NW of Los Angeles), CA, U.S.A.

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"You will be sursprised [surprised] if I tell you the whole history of the relationship between Them. Between Christ and Kṛiṣhṇa, between Muhammad and Christ and Kṛiṣhṇa, there's a big relationship. They are all related to each other, very closely, which you'll find out in Kuṇḍalinī also. It['s] very interesting how They are related, now They have played the game. And They are all settled down within us, you see: all brother sisters, husband wife, all sorts of relationship They have. Is very interesting to see.
But it is not only a story but you can see it yourself, that They are within you.
To say, say, for example if I say that Muhammad Sāhab was the same as Nāṇak, Guru Nāṇak. Imagine: the Sikhs are breaking the necks of Muslims, and Muslims are breaking the uh-uh-uh heads of uh-uh-uh0uh Sikhs, you see. It's a big quarrel going on. But Nāṇak came after Muhammad to teach Muslim-Hindu unity. Because He was surprised the way Muslims are!
But They are one! They are one personality, born again and again: Moses, Abraham, Socrates, all of Them are the same."
1982-0622 Public Program, You All Have to Become Holy People and Attention Becomes Enlightened (Have I Become a Prophet), Reading, Berkshire, UK

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"So, to uh establish the balance within us, these people came again and again, these Ten Primordial Beings we saw: some on the left-hand side, some on the right-hand side. It's very symbolic. The whole thing is so wonderful.
So now we can say who They were. From the very beginning, this is Socrates, Moses, Abraham, Lao Tze, we had Muhammad, Nāṇak, Janak, and the last of all was Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth: the one who lived in Śhirḍī. He is the last Incarnation who came. After Muhammad Nāṇaka came, after Nāṇaka Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth.
All these are the one and the only ... only one Principle of Primordial Master who came, and They all said the same thing.
First of all, They were against alcohols, against any kind of a[n] intoxication.
But say, at the time of Moses they didn't have cigarettes, you see, so He didn't say about cigarettes, naturally. They didn't have. So the people who follow Moses think, 'There's nothing wrong with cigarettes because He didn't say.' But that time there were no cigarettes, you see?
All these sinful things were devised afterwards."
1982-1029 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Creation, Original Sin, and Incarnations, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.

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"In the same way, Sahaja Yoga is the Ocean. You cannot name it. Do not try to find its identifity ... identity with other things.
If you start doing that, then your mind will start becoming that small little cup.
And moreover, if you are coming from some organized religions, it's very important to understand: that organized religions make your cup even stronger, it doesn't dissolve.
If it is a disorganized religion, then it's a cup of earthenware, which can dissolve into this Ocean.
But if it is a solid, nice porcelain [soft laughter], Meissen, then there is no possibility. Then you are adhering to all that conditioning, all that solidness, and then it's very difficult. All the time you have to bring in Christ, or you have to bring in Muhammad, or you have to bring in Zoroaster, or someone like that, who should be there to guide you.
Now, your guidance is your Spirit, which is unlimited. So you don't have to bring any one of Them: They are all within you, They are part and parcel of you.
But to stick on to one person is again a sign that you are not expanding."
1982-0926 Śhrī Durgā Pūjā, Mind Is just like a Donkey, House of Grégoire de Kalbermatten, Sternwartestrasse 62, Vienna, Austria

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"In the same way, human beings have ten valences. These are described in the Ten Commandments.
This balancing takes place in this area which is shown with the green color.
This balancing is done by people who incarnate on this Earth as Great Prophets. We can say Abraham, Moses, Socrates, and many other Prophets like these, Muhammad, Nāṇak, Janak, all of Them came on this Earth: They were the Incarnations of the Primordial Master. So took to talk about this balancing. And this balancing They told us, because without the balance there cannot be an ascent.
[Aside:] Gentleman, why are you disturbing everyone?"
1982-0928 Public Program, Day 3, Urania Volkshochschulen, Volksbildungshaus, Uraniastraße 1, Vienna, Austria

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"Though this Incarnation is such that It never dies. Even if They leave the body, They are always around.
And They are the Ones who perform lots of miracles when any other Incarnation comes on this Earth. They help, support, guide that seekers to go to the Incarnations.
So, to celebrate His birthday, on such a date, is also a myth because He never died. He is eternally living: They never grow, and They never die.
But His birth is important, because, symbolically, He came on this Earth not to propagate any particular type of the Void as Muhammad did, or, say, Moses did, David did, Moses and then, before that Abraham, Lao Tze, or Socrates, which followed into a religion. But He came to create amenity ... amity we can say, to create understanding, to create unity between the religions.
This was a very big step for Sahaja Yoga.
After that as you know, He was born again, God knows where, no one knows where He was born, but He appeared as Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. He too said the same thing: that, "To talk ill of any religion is a sin." "
1982-1101 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Śhrī Guru Nāṇaka Jayanti), Every Sahaja Yogi Has to Become a Guru, Nirmala Palace Āśhram, 99 Nightingale Lane, Balham, London SW12 8LZ, UK

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"Today only, we had somebody who had a uh Kuṇḍalinī which was just pulsating at the base.

If there is no way of getting out, It pulsates, poor thing. You know, It just ... some people have such Kuṇḍalinī that just goes on tossing that, 'Oh God, when I am going to give birth to My child?'
And then, if you can smooth it out, bring it out [snaps Her right fingers], It just comes up. And then you feel a Cool Breeze coming out of your head. Which is not possible medically, is it possible? You feel a Cool Breeze coming out of your head, you feel a Cool Breeze blowing into your hands. Then, this is the Power, which is the All-pervading Power, the Brahma Tattwa, which you can use, which is all integrated.
In Sahaja Yoga lung... language we call it Mahākālī, Mahālakṣhmī, Mahāsaraswatī.
Then you understand what was Muhammad Sāhab, what was Zoroaster, what was Christ, who They are, everything we understand. They are all integrated, we are the only people fighting among ourselves."
1983-0104 Public Talk, Sholapur Brunch of Indian Medical Association, Sholapur, Maharashtra, India

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"Everyone has said it: Christ has said it, Muhammad has said it, Buddha has said it, Mahāvīra has said it. Everyone has said the same thing! Like Lao Tze, you can say Zen system, everything has said that, "You are to be born-again," there has to be some transformation within you. They didn't tell us lies!"
1983-0308 Press Conference, The Hotel Windsor, 111 Spring Street, Melbourne, Australia

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"Now when this center is illumined, around it is illumined your sustainance [sustenance]. That's your Inner Religion.
The ... we call it Ten Incarnations of the Primordial Master. There are many who came, but the Ones who came in India was called as Brahmadeva uh ... was called as Dattātreya, Janaka, Rāja Janaka, the father of Sītā. In China, Lao Tze, Confucius. In uh, in the Bible, Abraham and Moses. And later on, in the uh form of uh Muhammad Sāhab. And then Janaka. No, no, Nāṇaka, I'm sorry, Nāṇaka. Nāṇak Sāhab. And in Greece, it was Socrates. They took birth on all these places. In the end, about fifty years back, or hundred years back, was born Great Primordial Master, in India, in Śhirḍī.
[Helping with the translation:] In Śhirḍī."
1983-0831 Public Program, Day 3, Geneva, Switzerland

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"As I told you before, that: we had Ten Gurus who came on this Earth, and They represented the innocence of the three Brahma, Viṣhṇu, Maheśha of Dattātreya. And one of Them was Zoroaster, another was Muhammad Sāhab, and all these Gurus represent those qualities of innocence of these Three Personalities called as Dattātreya.
And also told you how by understanding these different Gurus we can produce the effects even on our physical health."
1984-0317 Public Program, Day 5, Āgñyā Chakra, Mavlankar Hall, Constitution Club of India, Vithal Bhai Patel House, Rafi Mārg, Sansad Mārg Area, Behind Reserve Bank of India, New Delhi, India

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"So [that] the Ātmā, the Spirit, has to be found out, is said even by Muhammad Sāhab! He said, "You have to become the Pīr."
Is said by Zoroaster, is said by Lao Tze, is also said by Zen. Buddha has said it, Mahāvīra has said it, every one of Them have said it.
So many religions have started, in the name of God, without going to the Truth, that, "You have to be born-again." "
1984-0622 Public Program, The Experience of Truth, Part I, Polytechnic of the South Bank (now London South Bank University), 103 Borough Road, Newington, Southwark, London, UK

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"So this kind of a challenge, only a person who is a realized Soul can put it. And all realized Souls will stand by with that person: they'll have the same voice about it. Whether you go to the antiquities or you go in the future, any time a realized Soul will come he said the same thing.
That's why there is so much similarity, s-s... I should say the unity: in all these people whether it is Lao Tze, or whether it is Muhammad Sāhab or whether it is Rāja Janaka or Nāṇaka, They say the same thing."
1984-0710 Public Program, The Experience of Truth, Part IV, Town Hall, Chiswick, London W4, UK

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"Sahaja Yoga is not a new thing. In the tradition of spirituality, it is mentioned, about fourteen thousand years back, by Mārkaṇḍeya, that, 'Ultimately it is the force, within you, of the Holy Ghost, which is called as Kuṇḍalinī, residing in the triangular beau ... bone, has to give the Realization.'
But for that happening, human being had to be prepared. People had to be balanced.
And that is how many Prophets came on this Earth, after that, in the same tradition, to prepare people to have that balance. Right from Abraham, Moses, we see Them, follow Them up up ... up to Rāja Janaka, who was the father-in-law of Rāma, and later on we had so many others like Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak Sāhab, on this Earth, to tell us about having a balance in live. They taught us moderation, and not to go to extremes."
1984-0905 Public Program, Day 1, Christian Tradition and Christ, Vienna, Austria

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"And that is what is dharma: is the ten valences within us. These ten valances are nothing but dharma, which was preached by all the Great Saints. We can start it from Ādināth, we can say Lao Tze, we can say Confucius, we can say Zoroaster, we can say Muhammad Sāhab, we can say Nāṇak Sāhab, we can say Janaka, we can say the, all of Them are the representation or manifestation of Dattātreya, which we know very well in Maharashtra what is Dattātreya.
But despite all that, we do not know: we'll worship Dattātreya, and we will not follow Him.
This is the only problem we have. That: we have all the ideals, we have all the capacity to understand that this is something great, but we have no power to follow it. Because we are not Samartha, we are not equal to the meaning of a human being."
1984-1205 Public Program (English+Marathi), Day 2, Pune, Maharashtra, India

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"Now the Indians are very clever, as far as the spiritual side is concerned, I must say. Now they would say that: "We must have at least ten Pūjās, somehow, when Mother comes here." So they'll manage: "This is also there," then, "This is also there," then, "What about Muhammad Sāhabs' birthday?", then, "What about Moses' birthday?", which it they don't know, but they'll find out somehow. [Laughter.] And then, "What about also Lao Tze's birthday, why not find it out? So, when Mother is here, invariably every third day let us have a Pūjā." "
1985-0420 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Mahāmāyā Śhakti, Seminar, Day 1, Session 1 (morning), Mason Hall, University, Birmingham, West Midlands, UK

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"Now, this question follows another question: that if you are the Spirit, [then] you are your own guide, you are own guru, you are your own master. So now you put your right hand on the upper part of your stomach on the left-hand side, which is the center of mastery. This is the center which is created by the Masters, the Great Masters, who are Sadgurus, who are Real Masters, like Abraham, Moses, Janak, Nāṇak, Lao Tze, Muhammad Sāhab. Now, you take this hand little deep, prarsee [press it], push it little deep into that area in the upper part of the abdomen, and ask a question three times, 'Mother, am I my own guide? Am I my own master? Am I my own guru?' Ask in your heart."
1985-0422 Public Program, Day 1, Université Paris Diderot Paris 7, 5 Rue Thomas Mann, Paris, France

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"So the ascent of the Kuṇḍalinī is a living process within you, which works out the Self-realization, the Second Birth as Christ has said, as Muhammad Sāhab has said, "You have to be a Walī," as Lao Tze has said, and Confucius has described. We have Nāṇaka and Janaka who have talked about it. That it is within us, and we have to achieve it within ourselves."
1985-0509 Public Program, Day 2, Habit Comes to You from Matter, Münich, Germany

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"So, when we seek also the Truth, we try to get to a new method all the time. And I think the evil[s] that came uh in forms of wrong type of gurus are the product of this kind of demand.
Only seventy to hundred years back, I should say, in India, suddenly a new wave of some new ideas about the knowledge of the roots started.
Some things that they talk of are not written in the Vedas, nor in the Purāṇas, nor in any books of uh uh ori-ental knowledge, nor in any books that are uh written after Christ, like the Bible, or Qur'ān after Muhammad Sāhab, and also uh the writings of Zoroaster. It has no relationship whatsoever to the ancient findings about the roots.
So, we had a problem about the religion in the same manner."
1985-0611 Public Program, Day 1, The Truth Has Two Sides, Geneva, Switzerland

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"Now when I'm talking to you about the mechanism that is built within us for our last breakthrough, you need not believe Me.
In our country also, this knowledge was kept a secret for thousands of years. Though we can say people like Mārkaṇḍeya, whose dates could be fourteen thousand [years ago], or later on, up to Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, people did write about the Kuṇḍalinī.
And at the time of Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, He very clearly talked about it. That was the tradition of evolution described in all these great Scriptures.
Even in the Bible, you find the Tree of Fire. It says: "I will appear before you as tongues of flames."
Even Muhammad Sāhab, who came much later, very clearly, very, very clearly, and elaborately, at length, talked about the Resurrection Day. He said: "At the Time of Resurrection, your hands will speak."
But everybody missed the point.
Zoroaster talked about it thousands of years back. Confucius, Lao Tze, everyone talked about it: that, 'We have to be the Spirit.'
Christ clearly said: "You are to be born-again!" Then Nicodemus asked Him: "Do you mean to say, I should enter into the womb of my mother?" "No," He said, "whatever is born of the flesh is the flesh. You are to be born of the Holy Ghost." "
1985-0703 Public Program, Day 1, Nederlands Congresgebouw (now World Forum), Churchillplein 10, The Hague, Netherlands

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"Now, we can say that Christ has always said that, "You are to be born-again." In all the religions, which are true religions, it is said, "You are to be born-again"!
Actually, in India, which is a country which we think is not very developed, has been always the idea that you have to achieve your Self-realization.
Zen has said the same thing, Lao Tze's Tao is the same thing, in Islam it is said the same thing. Muhammad Sāhab has said that: "In the Time of Resurrection your hands will speak."
But they [the Muslims] do not talk of the Resurrection. They talk of the Doomsday, which is a wee part in the Qur'ān.
Christians, also, don't talk about what John has said or Christ has said that, "I'll send you the Holy Ghost." That: 'You will get your redemption, your comfort and your counseling,' through that Person."
1986-0520 Public Program, Day 1, Faculté de Medicine Lariboisière Saint-Louis, Université Paris Diderot (Paris 7), 10 Avenue de Verdun, Paris, France

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"If you go to a temple, every temple has got uh-uh-uh nice uh arrangement for you to get possessed. [Laughter.]
Or even a church, or a mosque, where God has to reside, you find suddenly you get attacked. and you come out absolutely puzzled about yourself, ending up into lunatic asylums.
So what sort of worshiping places are these, where you go to find God and you get the horrible satanic forces acting on you?
That's why in the modern times, people have become so very confused. We do not find truth in anything: in any ideologies, any philosophies, anything that started, say, Confucius started humanism, Socrates started another thing, Muhammad Sāhab started another thing.
Like Muhammad Sāhab said. "Let us not worship God as an idol. Let us worship Him in the Nirākāra," in the Formless God."
1987-0712 Guru Pūjā, Tent, Marque, Back Garden, Śhuddhi Camp (now The Hall, Shudy Camps Park), Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, UK

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"But everyone has talked about your Re-birth, whether it was Christ, or Muhammad Sāhab, Socrates, Lao Tze, anyone. You are to be born-again, then you will know the reality.
But it is not some sort of a brand, or some sort of a[n] organization to which you belong and you's call yourself, 'I am a born-realized.' This is falsehood.
And, if you have to be compromising with falsehood, we cannot have the beauty and glory of reality.
We have to be honest to know the Truth. And that honesty is as simple as this: to say that, 'So far, I have not known the Truth. I've believed into this and that, but I have not known the truth.' "
1987-1102 Public Program, Day 1, Power that Comes with Your Second Birth and Know the Truth, Salle C, Maison de la Mutualité, 24 Rue Saint-Victor, 5th Arrondissement, Paris, France

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"Sahaja Yoga is your own religion. Within yourself you have a Kuṇḍalinī: you have this Power within yourself which is to be awakened. About which even Saint Thomas has said, about which Muhammad Sāheb has said, about which Zoroaster has said, about which Christ has said, about which of course, Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa has said, in a way."
1988-0000 Public Program, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

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Śhrī Mātājī: Since long there has been talk about Truth. Socrates talked about it, and He was killed. Then came Christ, He talked about it, He was killed. Then came Prophet Muhammad Sāhab, and He was also, in a way, killed.
But today the human awareness is much better, and we are understanding that Truth has to be beyond our mental projections.
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Sahaja Yogi translator [summarizes a gentleman]: Eh. Uh-uh-uh s-s-s ... You said that uh Socrates was killed, and also, in a way, uh Jesus Christ was killed, but coming to Prophet Muhammad, it's uh-uh ... gentleman uh doesn't seem to agree with You that uh oh ... requires through which a particular uh words of his that He was ... was supposed to be killed. Śhrī Mātājī: Now, you must [take] 'supposed to be killed' in the sense that, you see, whatever He tried to preach and tried to do, people would not listen to Him. And He had to really struggle a lot all His life.
1989-0526 Public Program, Country House, Parc Emirgân Korusu, Istanbul, Turkey

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"This is all absolutely traditional but is not a dead tradition.
It's like the Tree of Spirituality, which had very few flowers. Now the tree has evolved, and there are many flowers. So, it is not hanging in the air or something new. But, supposing, you see a flower on the tree, it's a new thing you feel, but it's built in.
Is all built in, coming through all the traditions of the world.
Everyone has said that, "You must seek your Self"! Everyone has said. There's no .... no Scripture that has not said so. That's what it is!
But, how to achieve it, is rarely described, and one step forward is that: you can achieve it en mass. That's what is, we can say, the evolution in this spiritual method has reached.
All of them were born on the Tree of Life. All of them: one [Tree of Life], at different times.
But people plucked the flowers, and said that, 'This is my flower,' 'This is my flower,' and are fighting with the dead flowers.
Lao Tze said the same thing, if you say, start from Confucius to Lao Tze, to this side you go ... to the other side of it uh ... uh Christ has said the same thing. I mean, endless people. Muhammad said the same thing, Abraham said the same thing, then Rāma, Kṛiṣhṇa, all of them have said the same thing. All the Saints, the real Saints of the world has [have] said the same thing. Because they knew that people are still not at that level."
1990-0306 Public Program, Day 1, Camberwell Civic Center, 340 Camberwell Road, Camberwell, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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"For example, in the Arabic countries, Zoroaster took birth five times, and later many Ādi Gurus took birth, like Abraham, Moses, and last of all Śhrī Muhammad Sāhib also took birth there. Because it was very necessary, and that is why these Gurus took birth to accomplish some definite work."
1991-0101 New Year Pūjā (Hindi+English), Mukand Steel Factory, Kalwa, Thane, Maharashtra, India

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"I never read Scriptures, [laughs] I don't think I have to read them because I know them, but I was reading uh the Qur'ān and also the Bible uh from this science, Christian science thing. All other scriptures also. I mean, what they are saying is absolutely true, that you have to be righteous, you have to be above vi[o]lence, you have to be detached. All these things are absolutely the same, no doubt. There's no change. In all these Scriptures they say the same thing. This was said about eight thousand] [8,000] years back by Śhrī Rāma, then by Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, then it was said by Socrates, Lao Tze, Abraham. All of Them have said the same thing. Then Muhammad Sāhab said the same thing, Nāṇaka said the same thing."
1992-0221 Public Program, Day 2, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

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"Those who were Saints, in any country, take it Lao Tze, you can take from Socrates onward this side, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak Sāhab, all of these people, you will be amazed to find that all these people behaved in such a manner that we cannot find faults with them. I mean if you want to find, you may with your ignorance. But the kind of life if They led, how is it that They were like that? What was so great? It was Their Divinity which expressed.
While we all have this Divinity within ourselves, we have all these powers within ourselves, only thing: we have to use those powers, we have to manifest them. And for that manifestation, is ... is important that we have to become self-realized, in the sense that you have to get your Second Birth.
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This-s old science is not only from India. It comes from everywhere. As I told you Confucius knew this, Socrates knew this, and, also, many people like William Blake and C.S. Lewis, all these people knew about it.
But nobody could put it through to people because, I think, people did not want to accept it."
1992-0226 Public Program, Christchurch Town Hall (now Christchurch Town Hall of the Performing Arts), 86 Kilmore Street, Christchurch Central City, Christchurch, New Zealand

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"The first wrong idea he [Paul] started was that ... of original sin.
How can it be original sin, when He attended the wedding?
[Repeats for th translator:] How can marriage be an original sin [unclear]?
He attended the wedding! That means, did He want to encourage the original sin‽ 'That means all those who got married have been committing original sins. Śhrī Rāma, Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, Muhammad Sāhab, uh-uh-uh Nāṇak Sāhab, Lao Tze, all of Them got married: They were all sinners.' On absolutely wrong premises."
1992-0723 Public Program, Zala Festivalna, 1111 ж.к. Гео Милев, Sofia, Bulgaria

"William Blake, a great poet from England, has said that, "This idea of original sin has been invented by some devil."
According to this [idea], everybody and every Incarnation, like Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, Śhrī Rāma, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak Sāhab, Lao Tze, everybody is a sinner!
Such an absurd thing that was put forward, and because it was a very dominating religion, was the official religion behaving like a tyrannical king, people had to accept! Those people who did not believe in it were boiled, were roasted in the huts."
1992-0724 Public Program, Salle Gaveau, 45-47 Rue La Boétie, Paris, France

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"The first thing was the idea of original sin.
William Blake, a great poet, said: that, :This idea has come through the head of some Satan."
According to this theory, 'Everyone of us is a sinner, all the Incarnations like Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, Śhrī Rāma, They were sinners. Prophets like Muhammad, Nāṇaka, Lao Tze, all of Them were sinners.'
When this kind of an artificial idea is pushed onto your head, then natural things start coming out, and that's how they took to Freud. That is how Freud became a very great person.
Now, what he has given us e... are according to this book ['Freudian Fraud'] is AIDS, and all kinds of secret diseases which are dangerous."
1992-0726 Public Program, Linz, Austria

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"Muslims, Hindus, Christians, we do not accept. For us, we are all Sahaja Yogis, and we have faith in all the religion[s]. Not a samabhāv [sympathy, like nature]! We have faith in everyone. As well as we worship Rāma, we worship Muhammad Sāhab also. Same way! No less! As we worship Brahmadeva, or as we worship, let's say, Dattātreya, we worship Zoroaster. There's no difference at all. Same way!
There's a big difference in having just the same ... uh-uh-uh, uh what you call, the same uh respect. Is not that! But we worship the same way.
So there's no question of differentiating each other, nor on countrywise, nothing."
1992-1230 Śhrī Mahālakṣhmī Pūjā (English+Marathi+Hindi+English), The Universal Love, Kalwa, Thane, Maharashtra, India

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Śhrī Mātājī: [It is] as if the Mahālakṣhmī Principle holds the reins. And you cannot cross the limits: you cannot go too much to the left or to the right.
By this Principle you realize what is wrong with the outside religions. You realize also that inside all the religions are born like flowers on the same of Tree of Spirituality. And automatically you start worshiping all the Prophets, right from Abraham, Moses, Confucius, Lao Tze, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak.
Sahaja Yogi translator: Mh-hm?
Guido Lanza: Confucius, Lao Tze, Nāṇak.
Śhrī Mātājī: You worship Them! It is not that you have respect, but you worship.
And thus you lose the barriers of fundamentalism.
1993-0908 Śhrī Mahālakṣhmī Pūjā, National Palace of Culture (NDK), Boulevard Bulgaria, 1463 NDK, Sofia, Bulgaria

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"So, I think Iran is a very old country of great culture.
And before it became Islamic, it had Zoroastrians living there, who had great philosophy also.
Then these Islamic people also took to Islam in a very serious way.
I don't know but, before Islam came, the people used to make art with human figures. And after that they started making things of this kind, where there were only flowers, or cubes, or geometrical drawings.
It happened that I went to Shiraz, and I went to Metropolis [Persepolis] also. Saw all the places: is full of Divine Vibrations. That means: there have been, even before Muhammad, five times Zoroaster came.
And then came Hazarat Muhammad, who did such a lot of work for all of us."
1993-1009 Iranian Public Program, 11301 Olympic Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA, U.S.A.

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"In every religion there is some sort of a stupid stuff pushed forward, in every. Nobody could really stop it. Because those people who are in charge of religion have no enlightenment, they have nothing to k... do with it, anywhere.
And that's how, I have seen, people, say, in Japan, they follow one religion, and in uh-uh-uh China they follow another religion, both are just the same: one is Zen, another is Tao. But the misunderstanding is that they think, 'We are ex-xu-xu-xclusive [exclusive].' They are not! None of them are exclusive!.
Muhammad Sāhab described all of Them: from Abraham to Moses, to Christ, to the Mother of Christ. And He said, :There have been more than one lākh Nabīs on this Earth."
But now, why to feel that we are exclusive? This exclusiveness comes from where?
With Christ also, He described all of Them!
Ta-o, the one religion that they follow in China, is nothing but Sahaja Yoga: Ta-o is Kuṇḍalinī. Zen is nothing [laughing:] but Sahaja. Zoroaster, everyone.
But this exclusiveness has brought this problem, and they are fighting among each other."
1995-0321 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Birthday Felicitations, Nizamuddin Scouts Grounds, New Delhi, India

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"So the approach is different.
In one way, if you start going through science, through this, through that, you cannot reach anywhere. And moreover, your growth is stunted.
So, what you have to do is to go to this knowledge through believing in what They have said. Whatever Christ has said you have to believe, whatever Muhammad has said you have to believe, whatever Guru Nāṇak has said you have to believe, whatever Gyānadeva has said you have to believe, Lao Tze you have to believe. Like that: because you are not of that spiritual level. So accept it."</font>
1998-1216 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Hindi + English + Hindi), Expression of Subtle Elements, before and during the Evening Program, Bharat Scouts Ground and Guides Marg, Nizamuddin, National Zoological Park, Sundar Nagar, New Delhi, India

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"Muhammad Sāhab has said it, in the Qur'ān, that: "Your hands will speak when there will be Resurrection."
I do not accept anybody who says, 'I am a Muslim,' and whose hands are not speaking.
That's the main things should happen to all of you.
Has ... Christ has talked about it, Muhammad Sāhab has talked about it, Lao Tze has talked about it, everybody has talked about it. But so far, nobody has felt it.
Now, all of you have felt, I really bow to you for that."
2000-0611 Public Program, Massey Theater, 735 Eight Avenue, New Westminster (21 kms SE from Vancouver), BC, Canada

[WARNING: Quotes for the period 1980-01 to 2007-07 will follow in due time.]

"The Primordial Master was also born as Macchindranāth, and again as Zoroaster who was worshiped by the ancient Persians, and still revered by Parsis. Earlier He had taken birth as Abraham and later as Moses, the Fathers of Judaism. In China He was born as Confucius and as Lao Tze, and in Greece as Socrates. He took a very significant Incarnation as Muhammad Sāhib, the Messenger (Paigambar) and founder of Islam, whose daughter Fāṭimah was Sītā reborn, an Incarnation of Ādi Śhakti. She was the origin of the Shiya sect among the Muslims (in Indian dialect Sītā is called Shiya). Yet again He took birth as Guru Nāṇak, founder of the Sikh religion, whose sister was Nāṇakī (Jānakī, i.e., Sītā). Most recently He was born as Śhrī Sāī Bābā of Śhirḍī in the Indian State of Maharashtra where He died in 1918. Altogether there were ten major Avatāras of Dattātreya.
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Later They [Buddha and Mahāvīra] were born in Arabia as Hasan and Husayn, the two sons of Fāṭimah, daughter of Muhammad Sāhib. They were murdered in a very violent war at Karbalāʾ. Their death signifies a great sacrifice in the name of religion. It is an indication how people who are extreme in nature take to fanaticism and, in their blindness, kill the very essence of religion that is born in flesh and blood as an Incarnation. This awakening gave a rude shock to the mass of religious human beings of the land, and there ensued a phenomenon of mass repentance. In this way people were made to realize that there can be no attachment to war for a realized Soul. Violence and nonviolence are attributes of mind but awareness is beyond these extremes. In defense of righteousness one has to go to war, but when one becomes the witness one only sees the play of war without taking any credit or discredit for it, or being disturbed by its aggression."
The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Chapter 2: Divine Incarnations – Ambassadors of God, Pages 33, 37 and 38

"Rāja Yoga is a derivation of Haṭha Yoga. In this style of practice the gurus led lives like kings. They wore robes like royal personalities and ruled over the people. Rāja Janaka, another Incarnation of Dattātreya, was one such Rāja Yogi. In their inner life they were Yogis, but externally they led a royal existence, yet without attachment. They did not practice āsanas or Prāṇāyāmas, but they worshiped God through different styles of bowing. The Prophet Muhammad was the Incarnation of the same Primordial Master. He was married four times, but in His inner life He was completely detached. Śhrī Rāma's Incarnation also took place on the same channel and enlightened the path of Divine Kingship."
The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Chapter 7: Haṭha Yoga and Rāja Yoga, Page 107

"Brahmadeva represents that aspect of God Almighty which manifests as the Creator of both the subtle side (esthetics), and of the gross side of material creation. Brahmadeva looks like an ascetic, a saintly personality, with a beard and mustache. He has four heads and all the hair on His heads is tied up in a top-knot. His body is thin with His most prominent feature being bulging and very large eyes. Brahmadeva rarely incarnates but He has incarnated once as Hazarat ʿAlī, husband of Fāṭimah and son-in-law of Muhammad Sāhib. Some ancient Sages tried to explain the meaning of His four heads as the expression of creation into four Vedas. The meaning of His heads is much wider and deeper, though. Brahmadeva is the symbol of the Creative Power of the Supreme, the Īśhwara, Brahma, God. This creative power is expressed through the plane of matter in this universe. All material things have three dimensions but there is a fourth dimension which only human beings can see and feel. This fourth dimension is the esthetic dimension created by balanced harmonies and the integration of different textures, forms and lines. Animals have no sense of beauty; only human beings can feel the esthetics of a composition of different colors, or the movement of lines and the melting of forms. The feelings of joy acquired through this esthetic sense create a Rasa (a secretion of the essence or juice of a feeling). This Rasa gives one a stimulative feeling that sets in motion waves of esthetic joy within the Inner Self. These joys are of different frequencies and vibrations. One does not need to dissect them but as I look at the different petals of this chakra, I shall try to explain the kinds of joys present in the realm of creativity expressed through divine enlightenment."
The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Chapter 13: Swādhiṣhṭhān Chakra, Pageds 185 and 186

"The Brahmachaitanya (All-pervading Power) has Itself become very active as a new type of age called "Kṛita Yuga" has started. It is achieving results and producing miracles. It is not only talk or reading Scriptures, but it is actualization and the proof. Of course, all false people are afraid of facing the Truth, because Sahaja Yoga goes against their interests. They are challenging and opposing violently the spread of Sahaja Yoga. The Satya Yuga has to be established by the Sahaja Yogis. Now they are not alone like Christ our Lord, Muhammad the Prophet, Socrates the Philosopher or other Incarnations, Seers and realized Souls. They are in thousands. They are not in any way hampered by the few people who are trying to harm their collective progress. The Truth will be established and thus the dawn of Satya Yuga (the Kingdom of God) would be seen on the horizon. The message of Sahaja Yoga is that even these negative people have to accept the Truth and enjoy the blessings of the Divine Love."
1991-0700 Book 'Sahaja Yoga', Chapter 1: Sahaja Yoga

"But all this does not convince certain people, because they always want to escape. This character of escaping is keeping out many people who are quite deserving. They are very good people, very nice people, but because of this escapist nature they cannot get to Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yogis are extremely kind and extremely wise. I am sure one day that all such people who are trying to escape will also understand that it is not only for their personal benevolence, but for the benevolence of the whole world. Somehow when it comes to religion, they will only follow Christ, or only follow Muhammad Sāhib or only follow Buddha. In Sahaja Yoga we have all of Them, absolutely activating your Kuṇḍalinī. Everybody in Sahaja Yoga knows so much about Them, and the most important thing is that They are all with us, They are part and parcel of us and They are not separated by anything. They were working the same process in history, and now we are working it out in the present with all of Them."
1991-0700 Book 'Sahaja Yoga', Chapter 2: Vishwa Nirmala Dharma

"Now, having seen all these things in the West, I can understand why Muhammad Sāhib asked women to cover their heads and their bodies. Because He was a Prophet, He must have seen the future of women in the West, where there are absolutely no rules of decency or decorum to stop women from doing anything and everything to get themselves looked at. In these societies, the designers of scanty fashions and the hairdressers, it seems, are the most prosperous. It is they who have killed the beauty of romance as people fall in love on account of some hairstyle or some revealing fashion, then fall out of love the next day, because their beloved has changed her hairstyle or bought a new set of clothes.
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In order to be considered attractive, (attracting what and who?) they must expose their figure and show off their legs, and so invite rape, because their faces are so expressionless. And after all, their logic seems to be in a moneymaking society, if they are no good for rape (attracting all and sundry can be a dangerous game), how will they get their publicity as attractive women or how can they "exploit their assets" and get their pay-off. When He insisted that women should dress modestly and decently, Muhammad Sāhib must certainly have had foreknowledge of these kind of women, who have no respect for their chastity or for their dignity, and would tend to be like animals. They do not realize that animals mostly stand on their four and not just two legs to show themselves off."
1995-0929 Meta Modern Era, Chapter 1: Modernism and Rationality

"Of course, the Islamic attitude towards women is extremely dangerous. The benevolent ideas Hazarat Muhammad propounded to protect the women and give a chaste life to them, have been worked in the opposite direction by the people who are in charge of religions. The message of Paigamber has been absolutely misinterpreted. All the goodness and chastity has been practiced by women but not by men. Mothers or sisters are the feminine force of the family. They live in fear. This is a situation where the mother has to be the guiding, controlling power because the men are busy in their work. They have no time to watch and guide the children. So many women are killed by stoning for their bad behavior in the Islamic countries."
1995-0929 Meta Modern Era, Chapter 5: The Culture in the West

"According to the Bible, Sharia is written in the chapter of Jeremiah. These laws were given by Moses to the Jews, whom He found to be in a very decadent state when He came back with His Ten Commandments. So He thought these people required a very strict kind of conduct by which they could reach a certain moral discipline and cleanliness. Otherwise such immoral people could not attain spirituality. Sharia was not accepted by the Jews but was taken up by Muhammad Sāhib later on because He found the Jews were not able to accept it, but He thought He would put it down for people who wanted to follow Islam, meaning surrender to the Divine. I feel it is a misinterpretation. Muhammad Sāhib could not have done it. He was Himself preaching about Rahmat (compassion) all His life. How could He talk about such strict rules for women?
Perhaps He found the people of other religions were even worse than the decadent Jews.
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After Christ came Muhammad Sāhib, and perhaps He felt that if all these rules and regulations were written down they were only for men. But what about the women? So He said something should be done about the women. If they follow an absolutely moral path, then men will be also automatically moral. He respected holy women. He had great respect for Christ's Mother and also for women as a whole. In the Bible She is called as an ordinary woman. The idea of Madonna came from the Pagan religion which existed before Christ. But Muhammad Sāhib, who was the Incarnation of the Primordial Master (Prophet), knew who was the Mother of Christ. In Sahaja Yoga She is worshiped as Mahālakṣhmī. He did not want many women to be immoral and take to prostitution. For a married woman, there are very strict punishments. It is said that in the Qur'ān He said: "Any woman, who is immoral, must be buried in the sand halfway and should be stoned," (sometimes, she could be dead.) I wonder if He said such a thing, or if it was Muʿāwiyah [ibn Abī Sufyān] who edited the Qur'ān. But the way they follow it in the Islamic countries is really sinful to give this kind of punishment to all those who are considered immoral women. Whatever it is, it is very difficult, in these modern times, to find very moral people after the pattern that Muhammad Sāhib thought.
He accepted many marriages because He didn't want women to have relationship without marriage. In those days, there were many women who survived after the death of their husbands, in the wars they had among the tribes. There were many young girls who had no chance of marriage, as many young people were killed in the wars they had in the different tribes against Muhammad Sāhib. Whatever He did at that time (samayāchār), was very essential to create a new generation of very pure and compassionate people. Both Jesus Christ and Muhammad Sāhib were not only divine but they were Incarnations who had a Special Mission to come on this Earth.
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Every one knows very well that Muslim women are under great pressure. Once I was going to Aurangabad, and on the way My car failed near Daulatabad, meaning the city of wealth. Here there was a crowd of Muslim women. They were filling water from a tap which was broken and I got down from the car and started talking to them. They were all Muslim women who were divorced (ṭalāq) by their husbands. Each one of them had seven to eight children and no compensation was given to them. They were just starving. They were taking the water from the tap and they said that sometimes they got some work on the roads, when they were being repaired or some new roads had to be made. They lived in some sort of a shelter which had broken tin pieces or some dried leaves covered with tins and stones to hold the tin pieces together. Some houses were made of ordinary mud. They said that in the rainy season they slept under railway bridges – absolutely the lowest and the poorest women trying to live with their children, half naked and starving. They told Me that some of the children had died and they could not get any money from their husbands. The husbands say, 'Ṭalāq,' 'Ṭalāq,' 'Ṭalāq,' three times, and they are left absolutely alone on the streets and they have to go on like this till they die. There were so many women there and tears started coming down My eyes. I just couldn't bear it. Even when I think about all of them, I wonder what this religion of compassion and love, of Raḥīm and Rahmat that Muhammad Sāhib had talked about, really is.
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Both things are wrong, one has to understand that all these religions were born on the same Tree of Spirituality and that people have plucked the flowers and are fighting with these dead flowers. Of course, there are some absurd things which grew with misinterpretation and interference from unholy people, which are common in these religions. For example, Jews, Christian and Muslims believe that when they die their bodies will come out of their graves and they will all be resurrected at the Time of Resurrection, at the Time of Last Judgment, at the Time of Qiyāmah. It is so illogical to think of what will remain inside those graves after five hundred years. Nobody wants to think and understand that it is not the body but the soul that will come out of these bodies, be born again as human beings and be saved through Qiyāmah that is the Resurrection. Who will tell them? No one can talk to them. As soon as one wants to talk one can be killed. That is the only thing they know how to kill. The greatest problem with the fundamentalists is that they have no compassion because they do not love [know] Muhammad Sāhib, who He was and why He came on this Earth. They do not know the reality. They just think that they are right type of people and that they can kill as many human beings (Kafirs) as they want, and they can create as many problems as they like, and they can destroy the rest of the people who do not follow their fundamentalism. We find that fundamentalists do not know the fundamentals of religion and the people who think they are very modern also don't know where this modern mind is going to take them. What a shock is awaited for this modern man who has lost faith in God. Both ways they try to do things which are in no way helpful for global peace; or for the ascent of human beings by which they will have their own peace within their heart.
Actually Hazarat Muhammad never made Islam an exclusive religion in the Qur'ān. He very respectfully talked about Moses, Abraham, Christ and His Mother, one after another. Even so Muslims believe they are exclusive. Jews and Christians also believe theirs are exclusive religions. There is another problem – they believe that Muhammad was the exclusive messenger of God and Christians believe that Christ is the last word, while Jews believe that their Savior has yet to come. If these Incarnations were the last ones why did Muhammad say, "I will send you the Twelfth Mahdī?" Also why did Christ say that He would send the Holy Ghost? We cannot say how long the Jews are going to wait for their Savior to come. They are wailing and crying before the wailing wall wearing the Torah in small amulets, but actually the most important thing for them is to collect the money that they have lent and buy diamonds at any cost.
Muslims who are not educated enough to understand Qur'ān in original believe that they are the soldiers of Jihād which is led by some very clever ego-oriented educated people. They have not even read the Qur'ān which was edited forty years after the death of Muhammad Sāhib. The editor himself was the most cruel man, who killed Hazarat ʿAlī, His two sons and two other Khalifas. It is said that the mother of this fifth Khalifa ate the raw liver of the fourth Khalifa. In this Jihād, how many Muslims are going to die? On one side they produce more children to create a Muslim majority and on the other side they are getting killed in thousands. The Jihād has become imminent and the Muslims are a real threat to peace and progress of every country they live in."
1995-0929 Meta Modern Era, Chapter 6: Religions

"For example, the war in Bosnia is the misidentification of Croats, Muslims and Serbs. They follow the Christian and Muslim religions. The Croats are Catholic Christians but do they follow Christ? What about Muslims who believe in the Formless God and despite this fight for land? Actually, Muhammad never talked of an exclusive religion. He talked about Abraham, Moses and Christ in a series and the fourth was Himself. Even Christ talked about Abraham and Moses. Why do people who follow Moses, Christ or Muhammad fight? They have the same roots. At least these three religions should produce people who understand the oneness of their religions. Of course, the Hindu religion is not exclusive. It accepts all the religions but even Hindus in charge of religious affairs have made different laws for different religions. They are taking advantage of the minorities for votes in the Democracy."
1995-0929 Meta Modern Era, Chapter 7: Peace

"In Japan we had another great Master whose name was Viditama. He was the disciple of Lord Buddha and he went to Japan and started the Zen system. Zen means meditation – dhyāna – and he wanted people to become "thoughtlessly aware". He found out many ways of making people "thoughtlessly aware" – the tea ceremony and the temples that they have, are all meant to create thoughtless awareness. I was amazed that none of the Japanese knew what the purpose of these gardens were. There is one garden which has some moss on top of a hill in a very small area and it is very interesting. You have to see the flowers and other foliage there through a magnifying glass. All this should amaze a person and one should become thoughtlessly aware. That was the idea of Zen, but surprisingly, few understood Zen. Then there was a Prophet, Zoroaster, who was born five times in His country, Persia. Ultimately Muhammad Sāhib had to come to say something very clearly about religion. But the people who followed Muhammad Sāhib, never realized the oneness of His preaching or that of Zoroaster, and they made all the Persians run away to all the other countries and so many of them came to India.
Muhammad Sāhib has talked about Abraham, Moses, Christ in a series as They came one after the other. He has talked about the Mother of Christ especially with great respect. In the Bible She is not given so much respect because of Paul who edited the Bible. She is just called "the woman". But Prophet Muhammad says that anyone who talks against this Holy Lady will be punished, or something to that effect. So one can see that Muhammad Sāhib never talked of an exclusive religion called "Islam" (i.e., I surrender to God Almighty). But so many followers of Islam are fighting the followers of other religions and even amongst themselves.
The worst part is the practice of conversion. People are being converted from one religion to another not for faith but for non-religious reasons such as matrimony or monetary gain. Bitter fights are going on in different parts of the world between followers of different religions, all in the name of God Almighty! This cruel phenomenon is not understood by any saintly person. Groups of people claiming to profess the Islamic religion are in the forefront of these fights. The Sufis amongst the Islamic people tried to tell them that this is not the way to behave if you are a follower of Muhammad Sāhib, because this brings a bad name to Muhammad Sāhib and to Islam. There are some people who believe that Islam should be spread by Jihād. This was never the idea of Muhammad Sāhib. At the time when He was here on this Earth, the people were facing a very difficult situation because there were lots of tribes, and these tribes were fighting and killing all the people who were taking to Islam. That was the time when it was all right to talk about Jihād, but today there is no such problem. Moreover by talking incessantly of Jihād, they are becoming very unpopular. Not only that, actually, they have achieved nothing. By doing all this have they achieved their Self-realization? Have they attained their Qiyāmah and have they found the Truth? Nothing of the kind has happened to them. They are diverting the attention of people to wrong things and are trying to do something which is absolutely no good for the peace of the world. It is because of them that there are little wars going on in so many places. In Chechnya there is a war going on. Wars are going on in other countries as well, where the Muslims are thinking that they are the chosen ones and that the whole world should become Islamic."
1995-0929 Meta Modern Era, Chapter 8: World Peace

Jay Śhrī Mātājī!