ŚHRĪ SĀĪ NĀTH of ŚHIRḌĪ in the Words of ŚHRĪ MĀTĀJĪ
"To make the people cross the Void (Bhavasāgara) He has to make some arrangement. So the Great Power like Brahmā, Viṣhṇu, Maheśha was created and They were placed in the Area of Dharma.
Dattātreya and Ādi Gurus incarnated in this world many a times. He incarnated as King Janaka who was like the father of Ādi Śhakti. After that He incarnated in Iran as Zoroaster, then as Macchindranāth, then as Muhammad Sāheb and Nāṇak Sāheb.
No one fought with each other. See what type of darkness you are in?
Fāṭimah, the daughter of Muhammad Sāheb was the same who became daughter of King Janaka.
Whom are you fighting? Think over it.
The Nāṇakī of Guru Nāṇaka was none else but Jānakī.
Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth was also an Ādi Guru.
They are the Masters of all.
Also, They are My Gurus. These Ādi Gurus taught Me all this Knowledge. In different Incarnations They kept Me teaching.
Ultimately I had to come and do His work. They could not do it and now They are placing Me as a Guru so that I take up the job of a Guru.
There was an age when no one was willing to accept a woman as a Guru but in Kali Yuga only Mother could do His work: it is beyond the power of men.
This work could not be done by force, only the love of a Mother could do it because already there is so much pressure, tension in this world. The day it is forced upon the human being they will break down. So, love is the only way out.
So this Gurudom was given to Me. Everything is acceptable to Me.
But I didn't know the qualities of a Guru.
Gurus maintain distance but mother does not keep distance with the children. Children sit on her head.
So, you people also could take liberty with Me and enjoy. Be with Me with full freedom, you will neither be afraid nor be embarrassed. There is no problem, you could come and talk to Me boldly about your problems. You could complain to Me as you do to your mother. I am freely available to you.
Freedom was needed, religion was required to be discussed openly, there is no secret, no secret about it. Ultimately everything has to be explained very clearly. All the secrets are to be told about, everything could not be said everywhere."
1973-1125 Public Program (Hindi), Day 7, Pāne ke Bāda: Sāta Chakroṃ ke Devatā (After Getting It: Deities of the Seven Chakras), 4 Duplex Lane, New Delhi, India
"The same Śhrī Dattā incarnated many a times on the Earth.
As I told you yesterday, King Janaka was one of Them. King Janaka was the father of Jānakī [Śhrī Sītā]. He was none other than the Incarnation of Śhrī Dattātreya.
Thereafter, Macchindranāth, most have you must have heard His name, was also His Incarnation.
After that Zoroaster who came three times on the Earth, He was also His Incarnation.
After that Muhammad Sāhab, who was His Incarnation.
And when He was asked that, "Bhāī [Brother], there must have been others also before You," then He replied, "Yes, there [was] a Muhammad." Then again He was asked who was before Him. He replied, "There was one Muhammad."
Muhammad means Praise, the One who is praised, the One who deserves to be praised and is the One who is Redeemer of the world.
They were all Muhammads, They were all Dattātreyas, who came on Earth regularly.
After that [was] Nāṇaka, Guru Nāṇaka. If you ever read His teachings, if you read His talks then you will be surprised that He has always talked in a Sahaja. He has said, "Sahaja Samādhi lago." He has said, "Kāhe re ban khojan jāe, Sarab nivāsī sadā alepā tohī saṃg[a] samāī, Puṣhpamadhya jo bāsa basata hai mukara māhī jaise chhāī, Taise hī harī base niraṃtara ghaṭa hī khojo bhāī." ["Why to go to forest to find Him, He is always there with you just like there is a fragrance in a flower and just as the reflection is there in a mirror, in the same way God is residing in you eternally, seek Him within."] He is just inside, achieve Him just inside. We are just singing poem, singing songs, we are just cramming His prescription.
The talk of seeking this Absolute Principle, residing just inside the heart, has been made since ancient times by these Ādi Gurus, who are incarnated on this Earth again and again.
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After Nāṇak Sāhab, around fifty, sixty years ago in our Maharashtra Dattātreya incarnated as Sāī Bābā of Śhirḍī. If you want proof of it, then you get your Realization and after that if you put your hand on anyone, then you will get vibration of same kind: from just vibration only you can know about all."
1973-1209 Public Program (Hindi), Day 3, Śhrī Dattātreya Jayanti, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
"Despite the wealth, property, prosperity, power or position you have, you might [be] kings and queens but you won't get joy unless you stand in the Kingdom of Joy. When you stand in the Kingdom of Joy, then in any case you become kings and queens. No one can purchase you or conquer you. You conquer everything. You become kings.
Such great kings have come and gone in this country. In this Maharashtra, a great personage took birth who lived in a small village in Śhirḍī. People never understood His kingship, in what enjoyment He used to live. In this India, there was another king in Guru Nāṇak. Another was Kabīr. Did They enjoy any royal comforts? Today, the whole world lies at Their Feet.
I am present before you today only to bring fulfillment to all Their teachings and Their work. Nothing They said was false. What Jesus said, what Kṛiṣhṇa said, what is written in the Gītā, what is written in the Bible, what is written in the Qur'ān will be proved by Me.
In looks, I am just an ordinary lady. All right, the power flowing through Me will prove how the Unconscious is working."
1975-1222 Public Program (Hindi), Day 1, Prabhu ke Prem kā Anubhav (Experiences of Lord's Love), Gita Mandir Hall, Bharatiya Vidyā Bhavan (3rd floor), 29, Kulapati K.M. Munshi Mārg, Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
"Another thing is, here in Bhavasāgar, all Three, Brahmā, Viṣhṇu, Maheśhwar, combined to make a child, who is called Ādi Guru, is known as Dattātreya. There were many Incarnations of Him. And His Child Tattwa also took Incarnations. First was Dattātreya, then came Rāja Janak. Like this, many Incarnations came, Rāja Janak, Nāṇak, Zarathustra, Muhammad Sāhab, Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī.
They are all one. Are They or not? You can witness it after Self-realization. If you believe in one Guru, like Nāṇak, then you have no right not to accept Muhammad Sāhab. If you get Muhammad Sāhab and not Nāṇak, then you have no authority as well.
You will be surprised, most of the cancer disease comes from the imbalance of Bhavasāgar, you follow one but not the other. Cancer also comes when we don't follow Them.
Like He forbade two things, like not to smoke a cigarette and not to consume alcohol.
Alcohol is entirely not allowed. Here, in Sahaja Yoga, if someone is habituated to drink alcohol, they will leave it. If they don't leave alcohol, it will [not] be in moderation because both of these things go against Guru Tattwa.
If Guru Tattwa is not established within us, we cannot have our evolution. Guru Tattwa is essential. Guru Tattwa is one destiny for all religions. There is one flow from all the religions."
1976-032x Public Program (Hindi), Day y, Advertised as 'Kuṇḍalinī Awakening', New Delhi, India (date to be confirmed)
"Just be silent and be witnesses. As Sāī Bābā has said, "Saburī," patience, it comes in."
1976-0402 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, The Role of Tongue, Sight and Feet in Spiritual Evolution, New Delhi, India
"At this point you are in Sāmīpya Samādhi. Means you feel that Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa is standing next to you. Sometimes you feel that Rādhā is here. Sometimes you see that Śhrī Śhrī Sāī Bābā is sitting in person. But still you are not there where They are. In Sāmīpya State also, you are not there where They all are."
1976-0527 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Marathi), Sahaja Yoga Baddal Sarvānna Sangaychee Hi Sahajayogyānchi Jababdari Āhe (Responsibility of Sahaja Yoga), Dadar, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
"In Maharashtra, some Great Gurus have taken birth, which means we are some special people, that's what I have to say. Land of Maharashtra has something extraordinary. Or you can say that because of that soil, lotus bloomed. Those Gurus were very great.
Before some years back we had Great Guru of Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. No doubt about it, He was an Incarnation of Śhrī Dattātreya. There is no doubt about His Incarnation. He was a Muslim. You recognized Him, that is important.
But there now you have built temples, big priests have come there. How they would do Pūjā for Him or worship Him? What authority they have? Who are they? And in front of them you put the money. Means, what is going on? What He taught, what He said?
Only going to temple and sitting there, you will say, 'Sāī Bābā [of Śhirḍī] has fulfilled our wishes,' means He has done our work. He does that because He is very kind. Once you surrender to Him, He will do your work. But what you have done for Him?
He is angry because you are taking His name. I have seen so many of His devotees. I have to tell Him, 'Forgive them, they don't know.' We are not qualified to take His name.
He is very great, for Me.
I am OK if you have taken My name for so many times, there is no problem. I will not get angry, I am your Mother.
But for Him, to take His name, or to see Him with big eyes, is a big thing.
These kinds of Great Saints we had.
When they were alive, then they were tortured, that you have to accept.
Now they are not here. Whatever happened it happened.
But now also, how you are behaving‽ Are we behaving as per them?
In Maharashtra so many Saints were there.
There is one group, Śhiva Senā [Party] is created [on 1966-0619]. Some others are also created. This kind of dirty things we are doing now.
I want to say it means what it's not a political thing, but to envy someone or think bad about others or seeing someone less than you or big than you, etc., these things should not happen by [to] devotees of Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. Let other people do that.
Keeping Sāī's Photo at home and say[ing] that, 'Hindus, Muslims are different'! That kind of thing you can't spread. Admitted that Muslims are bad that they have done something wrong or harassed someone, admitted Hindus are bad [that] they have harassed someone! But when you are keeping His Photo, where you stand? You are at His Feet.
But if you are a disciple of anyone, fine.
But if you are a disciple of Sāī, then you are all one. Then you don't have to have different feelings.
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Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth was great.
I have seen today's Śhaṅkarāchārya. None of them are realized.
It's different about Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, He and Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth are one."
1976-0531 Public Program (Marathi), Sahajyog Sgalyāṃnā Samagra Karto (Sahaja Yoga Makes Everyone Holistic), Matunga, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
"The left-hand side, as I told you, is the emotional feeling about things, you see.
Uh-uh-uh-uh you feel tremendous love for others and the sometimes, you know, people ... I would say Sāī ... Sāī Nāth was uh one of them who had uh this left-hand side gift with Him. And He was love personified. And uh-uh-uh. I meam, He was so much uh-uh-uh ... full of love for people that once there was in a woman who was very poor and she couldn't celebrate her uh Diwālī Day and He couldn't bear it. So, He gave her some water and the water became like a oil and she burnt ... lights in that.
And it's a fact, you can do that, it's possible.
And with this power, you can increase food, sort of thing, you see. You increase the food stuff, you are going to some, like Christ did it, you see. That's also [using] one [left] side.
So these, all these things come in a personality: uh-uh-uh some people have one more, another has some more, and some people have all these qualities.
Some, those who are Incarnations have everything. They can do everything that They want to. And They will use whatever They want to do and if They don't want use any powers They will not use."
1977-0126 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (28th Republic Day), Day 1, Questions on Chakras, Bordi, Maharashtra, India
"Some great gurus too like Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī, was also an Incarnation. He smoked a funnel shaped clay pipe for smoking chilam [hookah]. Now everybody started smoking a pipe. Are you Sāī Nāth? He would smoke, so that you do not come in contact with chilam [hookah] at all. He smoked everybody's chilam [hookah] once for all. He would smoke to digest everybody's chilam [hookah]. Have you got the power to smoke chilam [hookah]? He could not be attacked by cancer."
1977-0216 Śhivarātri Pūjā (Hindi), Śhivajī Ke Ūpara Sārā Saṃsāra Nirbhara Hai (The Whole World Is Dependent on Śhivajī), New Delhi, India
"I have told you about Nābhī chakra and also about Void. The Guru Principle resides in this Bhavasāgara [Void] and this Guru Principle establishes the dharma within us. These ten petals here that we have shown are the ones which establishes the Ten Dharmas within us.
It is important to have these Ten Dharmas in a human being otherwise he is not a human being. Even if he has has nine dharmas in him is still [unclear] a bit and if he does not follow these dharmas that are within him, and when I say dharma I don't mean by Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and all that, but dharma means the Innate Dharma of humanity within, if one does not keep to those Ten Dharmas, then he turns into a demon [devil].
This Guru Principle (Tattwa) has taken birth in this world in many forms especially it has these Ten Main Incarnations have taken birth like Rāja Janaka, Nāṇak, Muhammad Sāhab, etc. and at the end it was Sāī Nāth from Śhirḍī, who took birth. They tie this Tattwa [Principle] within us because all these Gurus who have taken birth for our evolution are placed within us.
[unclear] these Gurus are very subtly placed Deities within us.
Like for these Guru already say, "Don't consume alcohol," then They weren't mad that They said this. Neither They were standing in any elections to win votes that They said that. You can't even say that They had any kind of business that in some competitive feeling He said that thing.
They said, "Child, don't drink alcohol, don't take to cigarettes, don't take any kind of drugs," because the position of our attention within is also placed in the area of Void.
You will be surprised to know that our attention is in our stomach. Actually, to be specific, in liver resides our attention.
They said, "You don't drink alcohol," so your attention does not get spoiled. You know by drinking human awareness gets damaged.
People got the other way by saying, 'OK, if drinking is not allowed then let's not garlic, onions, etc.' Prophet Muhammad used to eat garlic, onions and also Nāṇaka used to eat meat and all that."
1978-0131 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Void, Heart, Viśhuddhi, Channels, New Delhi, India
"Now we have got Ten Dharmas within us which we have to keep all right. These are the main Ten Commandments.
These Ten Commandments we have to look after, and these are looked after by the people who are these, the Primordial Masters, as you call Them Incarnations Divinely: like Rāja Janaka, like Moses, like Socrates, like Nāṇaka, the last one was the Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. This is the Principle is there, is the Primordial Master."
1978-1015 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Zen and Void, Part 1, First Western Seminar, Day 2, Session 2 (during and after tea and coffee), Conference Center, East Hampstead Park (near Workingham, 60 kms W of London), UK
"In Delhi there is Hazrat Nizamuddin, he is a realized Soul. He is realized for everyone in the world. He is not the property of someone's father.
Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī was Muslim but He was realized. He was not only realized but the incarnation of Dattātreya.
How will you know about it? Till you are not realized, how will you know that you are Muslim or we are Hindu?"
1979-0109 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Kuṇḍalinī yā Cīja hai aura Usakā Jāgraṃ Kaise Hotā Hai (What is Kuṇḍalinī and How is Its Awakening), Bharatiya Vidyā Bhavan, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
"It is surprising that there is a gentleman in Rangoon who is an Avadhūta. Not only in India, but they can be found all around the world. Prophet Muhammad was an Avadhūta. King Janaka was an Avadhūta, so was Nāṇak.
Many of them [Avadhūtas] did a lot of work in this Maharashtra. It is only because of their work here did I take My birth in this place.
Sāī Nāth was the last of them from Maharashtra.
Their work establishes the dharma. Or more like the dharma settles down in that place. They take their form on this earth only to fulfill that goal.
When the human loses his faith in dharma, 'Why should I do this?', when he starts thinking this ways, then the Avadhūtas take birth on this Earth. And wherever they may be, in forests or mountains, dead or alive, all they do is keep working on giving you the validations of dharma.
If you tell lies and start suffering from its consequences, then realize that there is some Avadhūta, sitting on some mountain in the Himalayas, who is responsible for whatever is happening to you. He is the one putting you all right.
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But the concepts of dharma, as this world knows it today, are so complicated and twisted, "I don't drink, I don't even consume garlic." "Is it so? OK, you don't drink, you don't eat garlic, onions, etc., you don't do anything, granted. Then why is your Void catching?" Void meaning where Dattā [Śhrī Dattātreya] resides, in the stomach. "But I am a huge opponent of Muslims." That's it: you have lost your quality of Avadhūta. The Avadhūtas have been offended.
These entities, say Muhammad, or Janaka, or Sāī Nāth, do you think any of these belong to any religion, caste or creed?
Say, we keep a Photograph of Sāī Nāth in our home, who was He? Wasn't He a Muslim? Be truthful.
So if someone becomes a Muslim, he turns bad, how did you form this conclusion? Who was Kabīr Dās? Who was Nāṇak?"
1979-0122 Public Program (Marathi), Ātmyālā Miḍavilyāhśivāya Parameśhwar or Avadhūtas, YMCA Hall, New Link Road, D.N. Nagar, Andheri West (14 kms NW of Mumbai), Maharashtra, India
"In London, I have seen, that you cannot go out without wearing a coat! You have to have a central heated house, otherwise you'll die. You have to struggle all the time.
That is the reason people have paid their attention outside to overcome the natural uh problems.
While in this country, there is no need.
That's why in our country only these great people like Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, like Nāṇaka, like Kabīra, like uh-uh-uh recently our Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, and all these people were born because there you can live just in the jungle. You don't have to pay much attention to your well-being here, you can get everything nicely.
This is the reason why Indians are so much religious. Their attention is religious, their traditions are religious, we started religion.
But we have got such a big heritage, but where are we looking forward to? America and to Russia? Just go and see yourself how they are, then you will never look forward to them.
We have to look forward to Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, we have to look forward to our Nāṇak, and to our great Saints, those who lived in complete joy, peace and happiness. That is our heritage.
We are not to play and go behind these horrible things like casinos and things, that's ... gives no joy, otherwise why are they [foreign seekers] here?
We have to manifest our own, project our own ... our own image, which is actually based on the Self-realization only, nothing else. Let us be proud of it that we have got this heritage.
And they are not going to respect you unthen ... un ... unless and until you are yourself."
1979-0209 Public Talk for Westerners and Westernized Indians, Holiness Is the Basis of Religion and Spirituality (Religion Is Within Not Without), Program Organized by the Government of India, Day 3, Kovalam (18 kms S of Thiruvananthapuram), Kerala, India
Version 1:
"We are all very thankful to the citizens of Ahmednagar for inviting us so lovingly.
Moreover, Ahmednagar district feels special to Me. This is because work that started in Rāhūrī and spread across makes one realize that there is something especially religious that has happened in this district before.
As is, Maharashtra is a very spiritual environment. Because of that, many Saints have been born here and they have worked here.
At the very end if we recall, Sāī Nāth as you know has done beautiful work in Ahmednagar district.
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Now, living by the dharma doesn't mean making rounds of the temple and reciting the name of God a thousand.
The meaning of dharma has been told by a number of Saints in this country. In this Land of Saints, a number of Gurus have come and have spoken to great lengths about what dharma is, we can't thank Them enough. But we don't follow any of what They have said.
Out of all the Gurus, there have been Ten Important Ones and They have come in this world multiple times. The Prophet Muhammad is an incarnation of Dattātreya. After Muhammad Sāhib, Nāṇak who came on this Earth was an incarnation of Dattātreya too, so was Janak. Likewise Ādināth, who came before Māhavīr, was also an incarnation of Dattātreya. Furthermore, the people of this Ahmednagar are extremely fortunate in the sense that Śhirḍī [84 kms NNW from Ahmadnagar] was the place where Śhrī Sāī Nāth chose to come and stay. He too was an incarnation of Dattātreya. So, it is the same element of the Guru, which keeps reincarnating on this Earth.
They focused on teaching about things pertaining to maintaining the balance of the dharma, They didn't talk much about Self-realization as such, didn't work upon giving knowledge about the Ātmā to people.
The one thing that all of Them had said was to not consume alcohol.
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And such false people have always been the ones to trouble the Saints. You know, how badly such people have caused misery to Dñyāneśhwar. Then, Sāī Nāth. They have not spared even a single Saint.
Not only that, [but] when Śhaṅkarāchārya wanted to perform the rituals after the death of His mother, these people didn't even allow Him to do those. They said He was not allowed to do them as He was a saṃnyāsī.
So, likewise, such unauthorized people claiming to be higher above others have always insulted the Saints and made their lives miserable. Not only in India, but also elsewhere – Prophet Muhammad was tortured by such people as well. He and His family were tortured so much more than Dñyāneśhwar, actually."
Version 2:
"The people of Ahmednagar sent us an invitation with lot of affection, we are all very grateful for that.
And furthermore, I feel Ahmednagar District to be very special. Because the work that began in Rāhūrī and which kept spreading, that made Me realize that there was some special religious work that took place in this District in the past.
Also, Maharashtra is a spiritual region. Hence a lot of Saints have taken birth over here and have done a lot of work.
Finally, to mention as we all know, Śhrī Sāī Nāth has done beautiful work in Ahmednagar District.
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To live with dharma does not mean parroting the name of God in the temples.
The meaning of being religious has been explained by a number of Saints in this country. In this land of Saints, a number of Gurus have come and have spoken to great lengths about what dharma is, we can't thank Them enough. But we don't follow any of what They have said.
Out of all the gurus, there have been Ten Important Ones and They have come in this world multiple times. Of these the Prophet Muhammad is an Incarnation of Dattātreya. After Muhammad Sāhib, Nāṇak who came on this earth was an Incarnation of Dattātreya too, so was Janak. Likewise Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], who came before Mahāvīr, was also an Incarnation of Dattātreya. After this we were really lucky, specially people from Ahmadnagar, that Sāī Nāth who stayed in Śhirḍī [84 kms NNW from Ahmadnagar], He too is an Incarnation of Dattātreya. So, it is the same element of the Guru, which reappears on this Earth.
And They taught several things regarding the balance of dharma. They didn't talk much about giving Realization as such. They did not work too much on giving knowledge on Self-enlightenment to people.
The one thing He said, that all of [Ten of] Them corroborate on, was not to consume alcohol.
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And such spurious people, they have always tormented the Saints. You know, how badly such people have caused misery to Dñyāneśhwara. Then, Sāī Nāth. They have not spared anyone.
Not only that, when Śhaṅkarāchārya, Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya went home when his mother died and He wanted to perform the final rituals, these people told him that, "You cannot perform as you are a saṃnyāsī." And nobody turned up for the final rituals. In Kālaṭi village He cut the tree and ignited the banana tree and performed the rituals. And He cursed entire Kerala that, "You would perform the final rituals in front of your homes and bury the dead body there." Even today same thing is happening.
So, likewise, such unauthorized people have insulted all the Saints and monks. Not only in our country, but in most of the countries.
Even during the times of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon Him, the unauthorized people tortured and persecuted Him immensely. If we describe that we get to know that when compared to Muhammad Sāhib and family, even Dñyāneśhwara was not tortured so much. They tried to destroy Them totally."
1979-0223 Public Program (Marathi), Kuṇḍalinī Śhakti ani Sat Chakra (Kuṇḍalinī Śhakti and the Seven Chakras), Ahmednagar, Maharashtra, India
"So the dharma that has been established in us by God Almighty because if we want to go to the Kingdom of God, then in our freedom we must desire to get to God. If someone tries to pressurize us and says, 'You must ask for God,' then it is of no use, it is not an evaluation. That is why to reach in this state, a person has to seek the God as per his own independent sweet will and not due to any pressure, or any disease or any hardships or any sorrow, but only because of the fact and realizing that, 'It is the only motive of our life to seek God.'
That is why, when we desire for this Divine Gift, then the doors of God Almighty's Divine Blessings open for you, and around the center is a place of Ten Primordial Gurus. These are the Main Gurus which are the Incarnation[s] of Śhri Dattātreya. They are: Socrates, Moses, Muhammad Sāhab, Guru Nāṇak, Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, and Zoroaster. They are all Incarnation[s] of one Incarnation."
1979-0322 Public Program (Hindi), Sahaja Yoga and the Subtle System, Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India (other date 0321)
"About Me also you can ask questions. There are many ways of recognizing because in this life, you have to recognize. You have never recognized an Incarnation so far. You have to recognize.
That is compulsory and that is done through Sahajs Yoga because unless and until you are realized, how are going to recognize Them also?
But even if you have not recognized Them, there was no need for you to crucify Them or to torture.
Then all the Gurus who came on this Earth, the Real Ones – fakes are never gurus, they are not gurus – the Real Ones that came on this Earth, say, we can say Moses, Abraham, Nāṇak, Muhammad Sāhib, Kabīr, all these are Incarnations of Primordial Master whom we call as Dattātreya.
If They are or not, if Muhammad Sāhib and Guru Nāṇak are the same personality, same people who came in different times, then what justice are we doing to Them? How are we to find out? How are you to believe Me about it?
I will give you an example. There was a Muslim gentleman from Iran who came to see Me, who was suffering from cancer. He asked Me: "Mother, I want to get cured." I said, "You['re] a Muslim?", he said, "Yes, I only believe in Muhammad Sāhib and nobody else!" I said, "This would be something like that, 'I only believe in my nose, and not in anything else.' "
He was such a fanatic and fanaticism brings about the cancer of Nābhī chakra as we call it, the stomach. You will be amazed fanaticism is sin, sinful. It gives you the cancer of stomach.
I asked him, "Will you worship Nāṇak Sāhib?" He said, "No, why should I? I am a Muslim." I said, "Do you know Muhammad Sāhib Himself is angry with you and you have to worship Nāṇak?"
He would not but it happened for months and then he had to accept.
Any extreme behavior of this kind is prohibited in all the religions.
When Nāṇak came or when even our Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth came, They talked about sadāchār. Even the Goddess's name is Sadāchār Pravartakā [Founder/Source of Good Conduct].
Sadāchār is the most important thing. The dhana [treasure] is the most important thing. One has to be in dharma. If you are adharmī, how do you expect Me to give you Realization, you just tell Me?
Today I went to see a tailor of Mine who was saying, "Mother, if I am bad You tell me but why should not I get Realization?" I said, "True, why should not you? All right ask a question, 'Mother, are you Nāṇak?' " He asked Me the question. Normally the vibrations start but would not. He said, "What has happened to me?" I said, "See where is your Surati?"
Nāṇak has described Kuṇḍalinī as Surati.
His Kuṇḍalinī was pulsating at Nābhī. You could see with your naked eye. His friend or his proprietor was also seeing that. It was pulsating there.
I said, "You have a liver. Do you drink?" He said, "I drink quite a lot." Then I said, "How do you expect Me to give you Realization in the name of Nāṇak who has prohibited all this?"
When I say this people brand Me as anything."
1979-0328 Public Address, Inauguration of The Advent (Guḍhī Pāḍavā Day), FICCI Auditorium, 1 Tansen Mārg, New Delhi, India from Anant Jeevan, Issue 1 (July 1979), Pages 5–12
"So, if you think evolution is a religion, then I would say Sahaja Yoga is the religion. If your evolution if you call it as a religion, then Sahaja Yoga is a religion. But is a religion which takes you belo ... beyond your sustenance, beyond your religion, dharmātīt, beyond the dharma.
We have amongst ourselves Hindu[s], Muslims, Christians, all kinds of people, you know that. All these people can feel it within themselves: is the religion in their stomachs, they can feel it. They can find out where is the religion. Because, I say, there, religion in the stomach is looked after by the Deities of Primordial Master whom we call as Dattātreya, in the Sanskrit language.
But does't mean Hinduism. It doesn't mean Hinduism at all. But it is called as Dattātreya in the Sanskrit language, in English is Primordial Master.
He is the same who incarnated on this earth: as Moses, as Abraham, and, say, incarnated as Muhammad Sāhab, as Rāja Janaka, as Nāṇaka, and also as Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. Can you believe that Muhammad Sāhab is the same as our Nāṇak?"
1979-0507 Public Program, Sahaja Yoga and Christianity, Bharatiya Vidyā Bhavan, London, UK
"But still, as you can see in the life of Christ, that coming of Christ was declared much before Christ came in by the Prophets who made prophecies. All these Prophets belong to the category of the Gurus I am talking about.
So, all over the world three types of movements were on. For example, the scientist[s] on the right-hand side, we can say, and the left-hand side are the devotees of God who sing the praise of God. And in the center there were people like Moses, like Abraham, who came on this earth just to prophesize, just to protect the devotees of God.
Now this middle movement of evolution, today, has reached its peak. Because all the Incarnations have arrived now, and have done Their job within you. They have occupied Their position within you, in your awareness, on these different centers.
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So today we are here to know that within us all these Incarnations exist, and the force that really brought forth, really manifested, who live like human beings and work like Gurus, that force which existed in this area, which created religion within us.
Religion, as we understand, organized religion, is not the religion. But the religion means: your sustaining power. You are a human being because there are ten sustaining powers within you.
So, They came to sustain us and to give us full idea about these Ten Powers and to establish us in our religion as a human being.
So these Gurus, who lived in that area, worked out the sustainace [sustenance] and helped us.
And this is one of the greatest forces we have got, which resides within us.
And whatever They have said has a very great meaning.
Actually, we should say the Main Gurus are ten, but there are many other Gurus.
And these Ten Gurus could be described as Rāja Janaka, then Moses, Abraham, and the in modern times you can say Muhammad Sāhab, and even up to Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, in Śhirḍī, that force came in, for a short time, and then He disappeared. Nobody knows how He came there, He lived there and He died. Also, if you know Nāṇaka, He was also the same force, the same Primordial Master, who was born on this Earth.
Now, this is not the time to tell about individual people. But, I think, one day I will talk to you only on this subject of the Gurus.
So, these Gurus first started under the Primordial Master Himself, He was called as Dattātreya. ......
There's one more point I would like to tell you, that they have not yet gone here, but here [unclear], there are the two uh more small uh-uh-uh chakras: one that belongs to, uh uh which we call as the Sūrya – Sūrya is the-uh-uh uh uh, means the Sun, the Sun center – and the another as the Moon center on the left-hand side. And these two are uh governed or, we can say, is uh bestowed upon by two great uh-uh-uh people, who are the Disciple Elements.
And They, disciple elements were first, were born to Śhrī Rāma and Śhrī Sītā as the-ee Lav and Kuśh. And then They incarnated many a times on this Earth as disciple. One of Them is, we can say, ah ... was uh Śhaṅkarāchārya, another was Kabīra, uh like that. Then, we can say, later on, uh like, uh before Śhaṅkarāchārya, they came as Buddha and Mahāvīra. Then Śhaṅkarāchārya, and then, uh I told you, which is? Uh after Śhaṅkarāchārya came ... the Advent of Hasan and Husayn, who were the grandsons of Prophet.
So these have been incarnating, and they have been moving from one uh-uh-uh side to another and telling people that, "This is extreme, leave it." "This is the extreme, leave it. Come in the center, and be in the center." That has been Their job. And they are the ones who are, sort of, imparting you that awareness by you become a perfect disciple.
And the ... this is a very important point because it comes, quite often, that uh-uh-uh we do not understand.
Like Prophet Muhammad said that: "I am the last Prophet." All right, He did say He was the last Prophet.
Supposing I say, I am the last person to come here. All right I would say just to frighten you that, 'h-oh, you better take to it otherwise this is the last time I am telling you!' [Laughs.]
But it is never that!
Because when He wa... died He found out: that, you see, these people are madcaps. 'I didn't tell them this, what are they doing out of Me?' So, He said, 'I better go back again.'
And He came as Nāṇaka. And He told them, that: "Hindu and Muslims are same people, following the same religion, why are you fighting among yourselves?" See, They came for that unity.
Then as Nāṇaka He came. So, in Nāṇaka's system also the Sikhism came in and they started a warrior class and this and that. I mean imagine, the Sikhism ended up by having wars within Muslims and Hindus.
So, then He came as Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth to teach them.
Now, this is not a very important thing that, say Muhammad Sāhab said, "I am the last." Say He is the last, all right, even take that position. Who are you to Him? How are you related? Through what? What is your authority? How do you appropriate Him to yourself? Because you say you are Muslims, so what? How did you become Muslims? Did you get your certificate from God?"
1979-0530 Public Program, A Higher Life, A World of Bliss and Joy (The Three Paths of Evolution), Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK
"Around that, is that area where actually it exists in the stomach of God, we can say, this is the Bhavasāgara. This is what we have to cross. You see there's a Void, from there to there is a Void, and this we have to cross. And this is the thing which is crossed by the Kuṇḍalinī awakening.
Now what happens? That around that uh ... that ... water-like thing that you see there, see that is the one where Ten ... the Primordial Masters were born, Gurus, Primordial Gurus. Now They were incarnated of innocence of all this three aspects. And They were incarnated on this Earth, say, from Abraham, Moses, then we had uh-uh-uh ... up to Muhammad Sāhab we can say, then we can say Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, then Nāṇaka, Janaka, all these people incarnated as Gurus.
Now what do They do? They, They, They give you sustainance [sustenance]. They give you sustainance [sustenance].
Now, sustenance is ... is ... for human beings is different. For animals is different."
1979-0618 Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Questions and Answers, Jim Proctor's House, Cookridge (10 kms NW of Leeds), UK
"When Śhrī Rām came, people said that they accepted Paraśhurām, when Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa came they said, they accepted Śhrī Rām, and at the time of Śhrī Nāṇaka, they accepted Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa. When Christ was here they accepted Abraham.
All of Them had taken human form. But it is all the play of buddhi: how interesting it is!
Now, I have come and people are accepting Śhrī Sāī Nāth.
But when He lived here, He did not even get anything to eat. Why was it so? He was also a human being. As long as He was alive, He too was considered useless and tortured. But when He died, He was regarded as Bhagavān.
What is the reason of this all? Why has man been like this?
You will have water of the Ganges, where She flows. If She is flowing here, will you say, 'We do not accept Her as the Ganges!'? There may be nothing at the place where She was flowing earlier, or maybe only a nullah [ravine] at present. If you want to take it as the Ganges, you go your way. If the Ganges is flowing at this place, why not accept it?
It is not easy to understand human intellect. It is the most difficult job in the world! It is easy to understand God, because He is what He is. He does not have such double dealings. Man has a variety of qualities, not just double. All animals from snakes and scorpions to elephants, horses and lions are residing in him. You will not understand at all, why his brain is working in this way.
Now when the Ganges is flowing why don't you take water from Her?
Imagine this plug has been connected here. Will you connect in its place a plug which is out of order? It is quite pragmatic.
I cannot understand what hallucination is there on human intellect, that he does not accept the Truth which he is seeing but accepts something that is not seen? Its reason was understood long back and that is ahaṅkār [ego]. Man has too much of ego.
If you had accepted Śhrī Rāma in His days, He would have told you to get your Kuṇḍalinī awakened and get the Realization and get established in Sahaja Yoga.
Had you recognized Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, He would not have played Sahaja Yoga in Gokul, but would have given you the Realization and told you to practice Sahaja Yoga.
If Śhrī Nāṇak had been accepted, there was no need for Him to break His head telling you to do different things. He would have simply taught Sahaja Yoga, but very few understood Him in His days.
Now, when He is not here, you have built gurudwārās in His name.
When Muhammad is not here mosques have been made, because they think now Muhammad Sāhib is in their hands.
Now Rāma is in their hands, and they can make His temple and say, 'His is our temple, this Rāma is our property. We have authority over Him and whatever you have brought, all money and other things, offer them to this idol.'
You say all this because you think you are the authority of this idol. It is sheer ego because of which man thinks, that he can keep God in his control and for that he is making all the show. Every time the same show was repeated."
1979-0818 Public Program (Hindi), Ātmā and Paramātma, Saradār Patel Vidyalaya (School), Lodi Estate, New Delhi, India
"Now, through Sahaja Yoga you will come to know about the problems. How to balance its integrity? How to awaken Ādi Guru Dattātreya within?
Once Dattātreya is awakened within you, then the religion will spontaneously gets awakened. Then it becomes very difficult to do adharma.
The most important thing is that all these Gurus said that, "You should know it."
First thing is that human being should not be addicted to any drug or intoxicant.
They say that Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth used to smoke. He was different.
But you don't have to smoke. Any addiction whether it is wine, tobacco, liquor, etc. all are against your Guru Tattwa.
Why you should not drink? Because by drinking, your dharma and Guru Tattwa are damaged."
1979-0924 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Marathi), Kuṇḍalinī, Śhrī Śhivaśhakti and Śhrī Viṣhṇuśhakti, Navarātri Celebrations (3rd Day), Amar Hind Mandal, West Dadar, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
"Some people degrade the relationship with God to the lowest level. At one place, I observed on an advertisement board: 'Śhrī Sāī Nāth Bidi'. To use the name of God in such filthy manner is an outright insult of Him.
By relating every petty and mundane things with God, you commit great sins. You should know this.
'Sāī Nāth Bidi' or 'Lakṣhmī Hing', advertising like this is an insult of God.
What do these people gain by doing so? Some people say that, "Mother, this will do us good." What is this good? By that expression they mean they get more money. If a business is carried in this fashion, one or the other day it would surely bring them in trouble. This is the insult of God."
1979-0927 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Hindi), Kuṇḍalinī and Lord Jesus Christ, Navarātri Celebrations (6th Day), Hinduja Auditorium, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
"And the, he had uh ... uh started, you see, doing some sort of tricks which I did feel about him that he had started doing some tricks about uh his Realization. Because that's the only thing one has to be very careful, that one can get into. And the, he had uh sp... gathered spirits, because he got interested in curing too much. I told him not to cure anymore. I said, "You can give My Photograph but don't get into curing part, because if you get the spirits you wouldn't even know and will you be insensitive to it. And then you'll have problems." And then he had such funny spirits in him that those people who came to him, you see, were influenced to give him money by those spirits. And the some people were compelled, I mean they couldn't help it. The only idea that worked into their heads was that they must give money to him.
But uh this was nothing, he started showing My Photograph in the eyes and a Photograph of Sāī Bābā in the eyes and all sorts of nonsensical things."
1979-1008 Public Program, Maintaining Purity of Sahaja Yoga, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK
"But there is a group of people, still, who have been realized, and who are not, yet, there. Now what is the difference between the two is? In very simple: is the recognition. Those who have not recognized Me, will not be blessed. They'll be going round and round and round. So, it is necessary to recognize.
Now there are some people, like, we ... I'll say, very good example is, Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth's disciples are there. Now He is no more. So they believe in Him. Now where is He?
They don't want to believe in the present Incarnation! They want to believe in something that is dead. They believe in Rāma. They'll believe in Christ. Most of the Christians have this problem.
Even they will relate Me only to Christ. If I cannot relate Myself to Christ they cannot be in Sahaja Yoga. Or they'll relate Me, only to Moses, or to someone like that.
You have to live in the present."
1979-1202 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, before and during a Meal after Guru Pūjā, Living Room, Āśhram, 8, Hamilton Road, Dollis Hill, London NW10 1NX, UK
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"Apart from that, there is [a] third type of Incarnations which worked [pointing to the Void on the Chakra Chart:] in this gap: to sustain us. These are Ten Pri... Primordial Masters, the Ādi Guru. These people incarnated on this Earth to give us our sustainance [sustenance], our religion as they call it. They gave us those Ten Religions or sustainance [sustenance] which is important for a human being.
This Principle of Primordial Master incarnated as Abraham, as Moses, as Muhammad Sāhab, as Janaka, as Nāṇaka, and recently, till recently, the One who is no more a now, is Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth.
[During the translation helps with the enumeration:] Muh... mhh. Socrates. Nāṇaka.
Yes.
Now, these people are Incarnation[s] of the one Principle, that is Primordial Master.
The energy or the power with which They work[ed] is either a sister or a daughter: is a very pure relationships.
If you read Their teachings you will find [that] They are saying the same things. Because They were worried about our sustainance [sustenance]."
1980-0419 Public Program, Day 4, Spiritual Evolution of Man, Paris, France
"For example, we can say the gree... green thing is the one that represents the water, water element. This center the ... in the stomach is the water element within us. It is called as Nābhī chakra, and around it is called as the Bhavasāgara, you can say the Void, or you can say the Gap, or whatever you may say, the whole world as such, within us. So, the people who were born on this center, around this center, were born out of water element.
In this Bhavasāgara – oc... Bhavasāgara means the ocean of this world – were born, through this ocean of the world, were born all the Primordial Masters, one after another. We can say Abraham, Moses, we had Janaka, were Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], and Socrates, and so many others like that, Nāṇaka, and also very recently, we had about hundred years back, a very great Saint born in India known as Sāī Nāth.
They all represent the same element that is the water element. Being responsible or being born out of that, They are anxious to maintain water element as the one which is within us for sustaining ourselves. We su... we are sustained by water, so They help us to sustain ourselves. They are the sustainers: They tell us how to sustain us as a human being.
And all of Them have tried to establish religion within us.
A religion doesn't mean outside, but the religion as a man: means the capacity of a man, or you can say the quality of a man. What a human being should be like, what is the way to know if he is a human being or not, which is described in al... in the Ten Commandments."
1980-0421 Public Program, What Is Second Birth, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK
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"To normalize you, all these Great Saints were born on this Earth, in this Void of the Big Primordial Being. And they exist within us, though they are not awakened as yet.
We have had mainly Ten of Them. In India, we can call Them, from a very long time, as Ādināth, who was thousands of year[s] back. I have told you Socrates, Moses, Abraham, then Rāja Janaka. Then we had, later on, Muhammad Sāhab, then Nāṇaka. Then the last, one of Them, was Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. He was another Primordial Master, a great man.
They are the Incarnations of the One Personality! They said the same thing and same thing and same thing: how to sustain yourself. Their job was not to give you Realization, but to sustain you: to make you capable of your Realization, to make you a proper recipient of God's blessings as realized Souls.
If the pot is not all right, if it has all the holes in it, what's the use of pouring Ganges into it?
So They clogged all the points, and said that, "This should not be done."
But as we have made mess of everything, we have made mess of Them also. All of us! Whether you are English, Indians or this thing doesn't matter. Whether you are Christians, Muslims or a Sikh or anything doesn't matter. All of us have made a mess of Them by just disobeying. We have really disobeyed Them, because we have a freedom to disobey. We have molded Them as we liked!"
1980-0613 Public Program, Something within Us which Makes Us Seek Something Beyond, Stratford, East London, London, UK
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"These Statutes were given by all the Gurus: take Them from Socrates onward, Moses, Abraham, Dattātreya, Janaka, up to, say, Nāṇaka, Muhammad Sāhab, and take up to the point where it was only about hin ... hundred years back, you can say, at the most, was Sāī Nāth.
All of Them have said that: "You have to lead a moral life." None of Them have said that, 'You do not get married,' that, 'You do not talk to your wife,' that, 'You have no relationship with your wife.' All this is nonsensical! "Lead a moral life." "
1980-0727 Guru Pūjā (Guru Pūrṇimā Day), Statutes of the Lord (You Do Not Harm Anyone, The Testimony of the Truth, Develop Detachment, Lead a Moral Life) and Promise that You Will Be a Guru Worthy of Your Mother (Today I Authorize You to Be the Gurus and You Have a Very Supreme Guru), Temple of All Faiths (now demolished, 11c Pond St), Belsize Park, Hampstead, London, UK
"Now, all the Gurus, all the Gurus who came, say from ... we can start from Socrates, then Abraham, Moses, this is the Guru Tattwa, is the Principle of Master, Primordial Masters. The Principle is born again and again. In India we can say the Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], we had one Ādināth, the Guru long time back. Then we had Dattātreya, we had uh Janaka, Nāṇaka, Sāī Nāth.
We had in the Middle East Muhammad Sāhab, Lao Tze in China, Confucius.
All these Great Principles of Gurus who were born, They had one job to do is to establish your dharma. Their job was not to give you Realization.
You must understand: everyone has one's own job.
See, Mine is a horrible job [laughing:] because I have to do everybody's jobs.
But Their job was just to establish your dharma. They came at that time in those places where it was needed the most.
So, these Ten Principles, as I told you, They established [dharma].
They are created in the Void.
As you see here the Void part, this part is made out of the water element. So, whatever miracles They did, had something to do with water, like They could create water anywhere They wanted to. They would not cure people. All of Them have created water in the desert or in the places where ... like in ... Nāṇaka has created a Pan̄jā Sāhab they call it, or everywhere They have been able to create water. Whatever They touched, They could create water out of it.
Water is the life, life force which sustains us. Without water we cannot live! The is the sustainance [sustenance].
But, They actually are symbolized in an ocean, in the ocean, because They give us the salt, the salt of life, which gives us the sustainance [sustenance]. If you see the salt, if we do not have salt in our body, we'll have no sustainance [sustenance]."
1980-0728 Public Program, The Principle of Guru (Moderation Is the Way We Really Solve the Problem and The Innocence Is in the Center), Sea is the Guru (The Sea Is to Be Worshiped and So Much to Learn from the Sea) and Your Dharma Is the Way Your Attention Is (Dharma Is Balancing), Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK
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"Now, all the Gurus, all the Gurus who came, say from ... we can start from Socrates, then Abraham, Moses, this is the Guru Tattwa, is the Principle of Master, Primordial Masters. The Principle is born again and again. In India we can say the Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], we had one Ādināth, the Guru long time back. Then we had Dattātreya, we had uh Janaka, Nāṇaka, Sāī Nāth. We had in the Middle East Muhammad Sāhab, Lao Tze in China, Confucius. All these Great Principles of Gurus who were born, They had one job to do is to establish your dharma. Their job was not to give you Realization.
You must understand: everyone has one's own job. See, Mine is a horrible job [laughing:] because I have to do everybody's jobs.
But Their job was just to establish your dharma. They came at that time in those places where it was needed the most.
So, these Ten Principles, as I told you, They established [dharma].
They are created in the Void.
As you see here the Void part, this part is made out of the water element. So, whatever miracles They did, had something to do with water, like They could create water anywhere They wanted to. They would not cure people. All of Them have created water in the desert or in the places where ... like in ... Nāṇaka has created a Pan̄jā Sāhab they call it, or everywhere They have been able to create water. Whatever They touched, They could create water out of it.
Water is the life, life force which sustains us. Without water we cannot live! The is the sustainance [sustenance].
But, They actually are symbolized in an ocean, in the ocean, because They give us the salt, the salt of life, which gives us the sustainance [sustenance]. If you see the salt, if we do not have salt in our body, we'll have no sustainance [sustenance]."
1980-0728 Public Program, The Principle of Guru (Moderation Is the Way We Really Solve the Problem and The Innocence Is in the Center), Sea is the Guru (The Sea Is to Be Worshiped and So Much to Learn from the Sea) and Your Dharma Is the Way Your Attention Is (Dharma Is Balancing), Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK
"And these Ten Sustainances [Sustenances] are represented by Great Prophets. The Principle is called as Ādi Guru, in Sanskrit language, the Primordial Master. He had incarnated on this Earth as Abraham, Moses, as Lao Tze, as Confucius, as Socrates. Recently, He has been as Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī, not the other fellow, and other great people have been like Nāṇaka, Janaka.
All these Great Saints can ... came on this Earth to tell us: how to keep in the center, how to keep our sustenance, how to be human beings.
As carbon has got four valances, we too have got ten valances. We have to maintain those ten valances within us! That's what they came to tell us."
1981-0325 Public Program, Cycle 1, Day 2, Mūlādhāra and Swādhiṣhṭhāna Chakras, Maccabean Hall, 146, Darlinghurst Road, Darlinghurst (eastern suburb of Sydney), New South Wales, Australia
[WARNING: Quotes for the period 1980-01 to 2000-09 will follow in due time.]
"[Pointing down from Viśhuddhi chakra to Nābhī chakra on the Chakra Chart:] The connection is that this seeking [slowly makes three and a half clockwise circles inside the Void around the Nābhī chakra on the Chakra Chart:] goes in developing and there are Ten Principles which are described as the Ten Commandments, you can say, or we have got Ten Sūtras is, in Sanskrit language they are called as Ten Sūtras.
Gāndhījī [laughing:] put one more, by saying that, 'We should use only Indian ... Indian things, not foreign things, because then they will dominate us.' So he put ekādeśha [ekādaśha=eleven], he put one more.
But there are Ten, which are here, which are described as [the] Ten Commandments in the Bible.
And [doing a clockwise bandhan from right top to bottom and to left top inside the Void on the Chakra Chart:] these are the Ten Primordial Masters who were born on this Earth. Say we can start from Socrates, then we can think of other, in India was Dattātreya, is the ... Dattātreya is the essence, and He is born as Socrates, He is born as Lao Tze, He is born as Abraham, as Moses, He is born as, up till now we can say, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇaka, latest is the Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī. He is the One who [pointing with one more circle inside the Void on the Chakra Chart:] represents, They all represent, this Primordial Master's Principle of Religion."
1981-0928 Public Program, Day 5, Christ Church (United Methodist), 524 Park Avenue, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.
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"Today I would like to say about this chakra especially that is the ... what we call the Nābhī chakra, is the central path of our evolution where you start your seeking and youge [you] cross over to [the] other side.
Now, surrounding this you will find there is the Ocean of Illusion. And this Ocean of Illusion was governed by a Deity, by a special powerful personality whom we call as Dattātreya – is the Primordial Master. And He incarnated on this Earth many a times. At the time of Christ, and even before that, He incarnated as, say, Abraham, Moses, Socrates, Lao Tze. Later on, He incarnated as Muhammad Sāhab, then the same Great Principle incarnated as Nāṇaka, then the same Principle at the last incarnated as Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī.
So the same Great Principle of this Primordial Master has incarnated because without a master, how will you be taken away from in ... this illusion? How you are going to be exposed to that reality which you do not feel?
What has to happen to you is that you have to become more sensitive, more open, awakened, enlightened to feel that's All-pervading Power around you.
Now, these [masters] came again and again and told you that you must look after your dharma.
Dharma doesn't mean any religion that is being established in the names of these people, because human beings know how to make a pickle out of everyone. They are great 'experts'.
All of Them in essence are one and the same.
But like flowers on the same tree can be taken away from time to time and then when they become ugly and they become completely spoilt, then people can claim, 'This is my flower,' 'This is my flower.' Everybody has become a contractor of this thing.
Actually these people belong to the whole universe, They are universal beings and They came on this Earth to give us a sustainance [sustenance] within us, a sustainance [sustenance].
Dharma means a sustainance [sustenance], that is we can say, that is quality that is ... that is human."
1981-1015 Public Program, Day 4, Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ, 18480 Nordoff Street, Panorama City (32 kms N-NW of Los Angeles), CA, U.S.A.
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"So, to uh establish the balance within us, these people came again and again, these Ten Primordial Beings we saw: some on the left-hand side, some on the right-hand side. It's very symbolic. The whole thing is so wonderful.
So now we can say who They were. From the very beginning, this is Socrates, Moses, Abraham, Lao Tze, we had Muhammad, Nāṇak, Janak, and the last of all was Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth: the one who lived in Śhirḍī. He is the last Incarnation who came. After Muhammad, Nāṇaka came, after Nāṇaka Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth.
All these are the one and the only ... only one Principle of Primordial Master who came, and They all said the same thing.
First of all, They were against alcohols, against any kind of a[n] intoxication.
But say, at the time of Moses they didn't have cigarettes, you see, so He didn't say about cigarettes, naturally. They didn't have. So the people who follow Moses think, 'There's nothing wrong with cigarettes because He didn't say.' But that time there were no cigarettes, you see?
All these sinful things were devised afterwards."
1982-1029 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Creation, Original Sin, and Incarnations, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.
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"Really, the unity within us lies when you become collectively conscious. All this work has been done in the ancient times. As Muhammad was One of the Prophets who came out of the Ten Prophets: Moses, Abraham, Lao Tze, then we had also people like other Prophets, Socrates. Recently we had in India the last One: is the Sāī Nāth, not the Sathya one, but the Sāī Nāth who lived, who was representing this Great Principle of Primordial Master."
1983-0310 Public Program, Day 3, Royal Exhibition Building, Carlton Gardens, 9 Nicholson Street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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"Now when this center is illumined, around it is illumined your sustainance [sustenance]. That's your Inner Religion.
The ... we call it Ten Incarnations of the Primordial Master. There are many who came, but the Ones who came in India was called as Brahmadeva uh ... was called as Dattātreya, Janaka, Rāja Janaka, the father of Sītā. In China, Lao Tze, Confucius. In uh, in the Bible, Abraham and Moses. And later on, in the uh form of uh Muhammad Sāhab. And then Janaka. No, no, Nāṇaka, I'm sorry, Nāṇaka. Nāṇak Sāhab. And in Greece, it was Socrates. They took birth on all these places. In the end, about fifty years back, or hundred years back, was born Great Primordial Master, in India, in Śhirḍī.
[Helping with the translation:] In Śhirḍī."
1983-0831 Public Program, Day 3, Geneva, Switzerland
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""Now, the Dharma, all the religion that is established by Great Prophets, starting right from Socrates, then Sei [Sāī] Nāth, Janaka, up to Guru Nāṇaka, you can say that that was just to establish the balance within us. Moses, Abraham, all of Them did that. They all tried to give us the idea of balancing, of temperance within us, for our ultimate purification."
1988-0609 Public Program, Day 2, Kongresshaus, 5, Margaretengürtel 138-140, Vienna, Austria
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"As we had very great people ... uh ... on this Earth, I have given you the names, as we said there are, there have been Ten Gurus, uh ... starting from Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], we had Confucius, we had Socrates, and later on we had Abraham, Moses and also up to Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth, we had about Ten Great Gurus, now we have so many here sitting down. They are all gurus, and they have to behave like gurus and they have to the ... do the job of Great Gurus."
1988-0731 Guru Pūjā, The First Principle of the Guru Is the Gravity (First Thing and Foremost Thing Is that We Must Have Gravity in Temperament and Value System of a Balance and You Have to Become the Fruits of Sahaja Yoga), Tent, Grounds around Annapurna Atiram Aparthotel, Pont d'Ansalonga, Ansalonga, Andorra
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"The Primordial Master was also born as Macchindranāth, and again as Zoroaster who was worshiped by the ancient Persians, and still revered by Parsis. Earlier He had taken birth as Abraham and later as Moses, the Fathers of Judaism. In China He was born as Confucius and as Lao Tze, and in Greece as Socrates. He took a very significant Incarnation as Muhammad Sāhib, the Messenger (Paigambar) and founder of Islam, whose daughter Fāṭimah was Sītā reborn, an Incarnation of Ādi Śhakti. She was the origin of the Shiya sect among the Muslims (in Indian dialect Sītā is called Shiya). Yet again He took birth as Guru Nāṇak, founder of the Sikh religion, whose sister was Nāṇakī (Jānakī, i.e., Sītā). Most recently He was born as Śhrī Sāī Bābā of Śhirḍī in the Indian State of Maharashtra where He died in 1918. Altogether there were ten major Avatāras of Dattātreya."
The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Chapter 2: Divine Incarnations – Ambassadors of God, Page 33
"In this Void is placed the Primordial Master (Ādi Guru) formed from Brahmā, Viṣhṇu and Maheśha (Śhiva). This Primordial Master is also known as Dattātreya. He has taken many human births as a Prophet and teacher, such as Rāja Janaka, Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], Macchindranāth, Zoroaster, Guru Nāṇaka, and Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī. This Deity helps human beings to seek their salvation by crossing the Void or Ocean of Illusion within themselves."
The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Chapter 9: The Creation of Kuṇḍalinī in Human Beings, Pages 124 and 125
"The Sufis in the real sense were realized Souls. In Turkey I met many who are seeking the Truth. The poetry of Yunus Einre is absolutely heavenly. How could he speak about the Global Religion and about Divine Love? He described man as the most elevated creature created by God in His image. In India we had Nizamuddin Auliya, Amīr Khusaro, Moinuddin Chisti, Kabīr Dās, Śhrī Sāī Nāth Śhirḍī, Kāniphanāth, all saying the same Truth about global unity."
1995-0929 Meta Modern Era, Chapter 6: Religions
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