ŚHRĪ LAO TZE in the Words of ŚHRĪ MĀTĀJĪ

[Page 281:] [To an acupuncturist follower of Śhrī Lao Tze who became aggressive when Śhrī Mātājī moved Her hand around His aura:] "How can you telephone with a disconnected line? You cannot follow Tao. You have to become Tao. You have to be realized otherwise all spiritual practices and gestures are tomfooleries. All your acupuncture will just activate the sympathetic nervous system. If you try to handle your machinery without establishing the connection with the source of its power, the parasympathetic system, you will spoil it. When Lao Tze was alive, how many believed in Him and how many opposed Him? Why do you believe in Lao Tze? Because He is no more and you can handle Him instead of Him handling you. Once He is dead you are using Him and following dead rituals. Today, Lao Tze is dead and Mātājī is living. So many people feel the Divine Breeze in their fingers. My child, how long are you going to cheat yourself? Why not know your own powers?"
1900-0000 Quotes from the book The Advent (2002 edition) by Grégoire de Kalbermatten

"These brief reviews [stanzas from Śhrī Guru Granth Sāhib] illustrate that the theme of Kuṇḍalinī awakening referred to variously as Rebirth, Resurrection, [True] Baptism, Union with Divine, Tao [of Lao Tze], is common throughout mankind's history in all the religions of the world. In fact, this is the essence of all the religions, though because of time and place constraints, it was kept a hidden science in the past."
1900-0000 Quote from the book Divine Knowledge through Vibrations (1992) by P.T. Rajasekharan and R. Venkatesan, Page 78

"Not only that, everything that is written in our Scriptures, not only in Hindu Scriptures but the Scriptures of the whole world, about things even those written by Lao Tze, by Socrates, whatever is written, because They all stood for the Truth and the same Truth. There are no two truths."
1979-0114 Public Program (Hindi), Day 1, Satya kā Anveṣhaṇa (Exploration of Truth), Biralā Krīṛā Keṃdra, Chowpatty, Girgaum Chowpatty, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"You see, uh acupuncture or all these uh-uh-uh systems are started by ... uh in the Wes... in the Chinese uh, this thing, there was a very great Sahaja Yogi was Lao Tze. He started acupuncture actually. And He has described Self-realization in [a] very clear way, absolute clear way. And He has said that, "Nobody who is not a self-realized should do acupuncture at all." He has prohibited it completely for people who are not realized Souls. But everybody is doing it, which is a wrong thing.
When you do in an unauthorized way, you do cure, but you create an imbalance in the body."
1979-0726 Public Program, Modern Seeking, Enfield Grammar School for Girls (now Enfield County School), Rosemary Avenue, Enfield, London EN1 3XA, UK (other date 0725)

"Only in the human stage, it is said that, "You will become aware of it." Is said in all the Scriptures: like Qur'ān, like Bible, like Vedas, like uh Gītā which is a part of Veda, you can say. Also, Great Sages, all over the world, right from Moses, Abraham, Socrates, Lao Tze, in India, Janaka, Nāṇaka, Vasiṣhṭha, later on, people like, we can say, in the history, about sixth century, we had a very Great Saint or a great personality or an Incarnation like Śhaṅkarāchārya, all these people have been talking about your Second Birth. That you are to be born-again.
Unless and until you are born-again, you are not a Christian, you are not a Hindu, you are not a Muslim.
Keep it one name. There are ten names, to one thing, for twice-born."
1979-1203 Public Program, Session 1 (morning), Realization Is Not of the Intellect, Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

Śhrī Mātājī: But I cannot understand this acupuncture at all.
Chinese don't use it in China. Can you imagine? In China they don't.
Sahaja Yoginī: They use it.
Śhrī Mātājī: No! They are telling you lies! They never do it! I've been to China mainland: they never do it in China. All telling you lies.
They don't believe in Lao Tze. They don't believe in Him at all. In mainland China, they don't believe in Lao Tze.
Just they don't have it. They have other teas and this and that and they use certain roots, I am more Ayurvedic style, but not, acupuncture they don't have.
I have been in China Myself. They, I asked Him about it [asked about Him]. They said, "Lao Tze! Useless fellow," [some laughter] like that.
You see, because after Lao Tze very few people got Realization.
And this one has to know what are the centers in the hand, where they are. They are also using all wrong points, all sympathetic points. They are not using the right points, which are the parasympathetic.
1980-0424 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Sympathetic and Parasympathetic, Āśhram, 8, Hamilton Road, Dollis Hill, London NW10 1NX, UK

"Now, all the Gurus, all the Gurus who came, say from ... we can start from Socrates, then Abraham, Moses, this is the Guru Tattwa, is the Principle of Master, Primordial Masters. The Principle is born again and again. In India we can say the Ādināth [Ṛiṣhabhadeva, first Tīrthaṅkara in Jainism], we had one Ādināth, the Guru long time back. Then we had Dattātreya, we had uh Janaka, Nāṇaka, Sāī Nāth.
We had in the Middle East Muhammad Sāhab, Lao Tze in China, Confucius.
All these Great Principles of Gurus who were born, They had one job to do is to establish your dharma. Their job was not to give you Realization.
You must understand: everyone has one's own job.
See, Mine is a horrible job [laughing:] because I have to do everybody's jobs.
But Their job was just to establish your dharma. They came at that time in those places where it was needed the most.
So, these Ten Principles, as I told you, They established [dharma].
They are created in the Void.
As you see here the Void part, this part is made out of the water element. So, whatever miracles They did, had something to do with water, like They could create water anywhere They wanted to. They would not cure people. All of Them have created water in the desert or in the places where ... like in ... Nāṇaka has created a Pan̄jā Sāhab they call it, or everywhere They have been able to create water. Whatever They touched, They could create water out of it.
Water is the life, life force which sustains us. Without water we cannot live! The is the sustainance [sustenance].
But, They actually are symbolized in an ocean, in the ocean, because They give us the salt, the salt of life, which gives us the sustainance [sustenance]. If you see the salt, if we do not have salt in our body, we'll have no sustainance [sustenance]."
1980-0728 Public Program, The Principle of Guru (Moderation Is the Way We Really Solve the Problem and The Innocence Is in the Center), Sea is the Guru (The Sea Is to Be Worshiped and So Much to Learn from the Sea) and Your Dharma Is the Way Your Attention Is (Dharma Is Balancing), Caxton Hall, 10 Caxton Street, Westminster, London, UK

Sahaja Yoginī translator: Zen.
Śhrī Mātājī: Oh, great! But you cannot practice without Realization. Zen means: Realization first.
The same thing with us: you can't follow the Zen is Sahaja Yoga. What ... what Zen has taught is Sahaj Yog. Lao Tze, same thing. Is the same. What Muhammad has taught is the same. What Christ has said is the same. 1980-1128 Public Program, Day 2, Paris, France

"And these Ten Sustainances [Sustenances] are represented by Great Prophets. The Principle is called as Ādi Guru, in Sanskrit language, the Primordial Master. He had incarnated on this Earth as Abraham, Moses, as Lao Tze, as Confucius, as Socrates. Recently, He has been as Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī, not the other fellow, and other great people have been like Nāṇaka, Janaka.
All these Great Saints can ... came on this Earth to tell us: how to keep in the center, how to keep our sustenance, how to be human beings.
As carbon has got four valances, we too have got ten valances. We have to maintain those ten valances within us! That's what they came to tell us."
1981-0325 Public Program, Cycle 1, Day 2, Mūlādhāra and Swādhiṣhṭhāna Chakras, Maccabean Hall, 146, Darlinghurst Road, Darlinghurst (eastern suburb of Sydney), New South Wales, Australia

"Moses, Abraham, Confucius, Socrates, Muhammad, Nāṇak, Janak, Lao Tze, these are the Primordial Masters, the Principle of Primordial Masters, the Ādi Gurus, who incarnated on this Earth to teach us how to keep our sustainance [sustenance]. They taught against all alcohols and strong things."
1981-0402 Public Program, Day 1, The Pure Power of Desire or Aim of Seeking, Royal Exhibition Building, Carlton Gardens, 9 Nicholson Street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

"People very religiously sit down and discuss God. It's most surprising for Me.
You have to become. It's an actualization. It's a Real Baptism you must have. It is your right to have it! You are seeking that alone and nothing else! You have to get it within yourself! If you cannot get it, then you are not going to be a happy person.
Don't run after falsehood. Ask for the Reality. And the Reality is that: the Spirit resides within your heart.
You don't have to travel for that.
Guru Nāṇaka has said, "O, madman, where are you traveling? It is in your heart! You just wait, it will work out. Balance yourself! Lead a balanced life. Don't go to extremes."
Same Moses said, same Abraham said, same Lao Tze said, same [unclear] said. Everybody has said the same thing."
1981-0911 Public Program, Day 2, Paris, France

"[Pointing down from Viśhuddhi chakra to Nābhī chakra on the Chakra Chart:] The connection is that this seeking [slowly makes three and a half clockwise circles inside the Void around the Nābhī chakra on the Chakra Chart:] goes in developing and there are Ten Principles which are described as the Ten Commandments, you can say, or we have got Ten Sūtras is, in Sanskrit language they are called as Ten Sūtras.
Gāndhījī [laughing:] put one more, by saying that, 'We should use only Indian ... Indian things, not foreign things, because then they will dominate us.' So he put ekādeśha [ekādaśha=eleven], he put one more.
But there are Ten, which are here, which are described as [the] Ten Commandments in the Bible.
And [doing a clockwise bandhan from right top to bottom and to left top inside the Void on the Chakra Chart:] these are the Ten Primordial Masters who were born on this Earth. Say we can start from Socrates, then we can think of other, in India was Dattātreya, is the ... Dattātreya is the essence, and He is born as Socrates, He is born as Lao Tze, He is born as Abraham, as Moses, He is born as, up till now we can say, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇaka, latest is the Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī. He is the One who [pointing with one more circle inside the Void on the Chakra Chart:] represents, They all represent, this Primordial Master's Principle of Religion."
1981-0928 Public Program, Day 5, Christ Church (United Methodist), 524 Park Avenue, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.

"What others have to say? Let's see. Great people like Kabīra, great people like Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, great people like Kahlil Gibran, all these people who are really great people, Lao Tze, Zen, anyone: that your awareness get[s] transformed. You get a transformation.
Transformation doesn't mean that you are sitting like a normal person, you start jumping like a mad man. It doesn't mean that. That you don't become mad, that's one thing one should know."
1981-1012 Public Program, Day 1, John Muir Elementary School, 1721 Ocean Park Boulevard, Santa Monica (23 kms W of Los Angeles), CA, U.S.A.

"Today I would like to say about this chakra especially that is the ... what we call the Nābhī chakra, is the central path of our evolution where you start your seeking and youge [you] cross over to [the] other side.
Now, surrounding this you will find there is the Ocean of Illusion. And this Ocean of Illusion was governed by a Deity, by a special powerful personality whom we call as Dattātreya – is the Primordial Master. And He incarnated on this Earth many a times. At the time of Christ, and even before that, He incarnated as, say, Abraham, Moses, Socrates, Lao Tze. Later on, He incarnated as Muhammad Sāhab, then the same Great Principle incarnated as Nāṇaka, then the same Principle at the last incarnated as Sāī Nāth of Śhirḍī.
So the same Great Principle of this Primordial Master has incarnated because without a master, how will you be taken away from in ... this illusion? How you are going to be exposed to that reality which you do not feel?
What has to happen to you is that you have to become more sensitive, more open, awakened, enlightened to feel that's All-pervading Power around you.
Now, these [masters] came again and again and told you that you must look after your dharma.
Dharma doesn't mean any religion that is being established in the names of these people, because human beings know how to make a pickle out of everyone. They are great 'experts'.
All of Them in essence are one and the same.
But like flowers on the same tree can be taken away from time to time and then when they become ugly and they become completely spoilt, then people can claim, 'This is my flower,' 'This is my flower.' Everybody has become a contractor of this thing.
Actually these people belong to the whole universe, They are universal beings and They came on this Earth to give us a sustainance [sustenance] within us, a sustainance [sustenance].
Dharma means a sustainance [sustenance], that is we can say, that is quality that is ... that is human."
1981-1015 Public Program, Day 4, Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ, 18480 Nordoff Street, Panorama City (32 kms N-NW of Los Angeles), CA, U.S.A.

"All the Scriptures, whether it is Bible, Qur'ān, or any Indian Scripture, even Lao Tze, or if we go to Zen or Buddha, Mahāvīra, all of them have said that: "You are to be reborn."
1982-0823 Public Program, Day 1, Temple de la Fusterie (Fusterie Temple), Place de la Fusterie, Geneva, Switzerland

"And that's what one has to do: is to place yourself in such a way, 'Let us see.' Keep your minds open to see: what is the Truth about yourself.
Now this Truth has been told by many Great Sages, by Prophets and many Incarnations who came on Earth. As we know Christ has said about it, Nāṇaka has said about it, Kabīra has said, Lao Tze has said, Buddha has said, everyone has said one thing, which is ... people ... which I should say people neglect and are not bothered about it. And the simple thing is, that: 'You have to have your Second Birth. You have to know your Self. you have to have Self-realization.' This every one of them have said it."
1982-1007 Public Program, Truth Is to Be Achieved, Guild Hall (now Bedford Guild House), 56 Harpur Street, Bedford, Bedfordshire, UK

"So, to uh establish the balance within us, these people came again and again, these Ten Primordial Beings we saw: some on the left-hand side, some on the right-hand side. It's very symbolic. The whole thing is so wonderful.
So now we can say who They were. From the very beginning, this is Socrates, Moses, Abraham, Lao Tze, we had Muhammad, Nāṇak, Janak, and the last of all was Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth: the one who lived in Śhirḍī. He is the last Incarnation who came. After Muhammad Nāṇaka came, after Nāṇaka Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth.
All these are the one and the only ... only one Principle of Primordial Master who came, and They all said the same thing.
First of all, They were against alcohols, against any kind of a[n] intoxication.
But say, at the time of Moses they didn't have cigarettes, you see, so He didn't say about cigarettes, naturally. They didn't have. So the people who follow Moses think, 'There's nothing wrong with cigarettes because He didn't say.' But that time there were no cigarettes, you see?
All these sinful things were devised afterwards."
1982-1029 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Creation, Original Sin, and Incarnations, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.

"Though this Incarnation is such that It never dies. Even if They leave the body, They are always around.
And They are the Ones who perform lots of miracles when any other Incarnation comes on this Earth. They help, support, guide that seekers to go to the Incarnations.
So, to celebrate His birthday, on such a date, is also a myth because He never died. He is eternally living: They never grow, and They never die.
But His birth is important, because, symbolically, He came on this Earth not to propagate any particular type of the Void as Muhammad did, or, say, Moses did, David did, Moses and then, before that Abraham, Lao Tze, or Socrates, which followed into a religion. But He came to create amenity ... amity we can say, to create understanding, to create unity between the religions.
This was a very big step for Sahaja Yoga.
After that as you know, He was born again, God knows where, no one knows where He was born, but He appeared as Śhirḍī Sāī Nāth. He too said the same thing: that, "To talk ill of any religion is a sin."
......
So, try to gather nourishment. Like reading Devī Māhātmyam, reading about ... finding out about Bible and finding about other Scriptures, about Qur'ān, this, that, and which supports you, which nourishes you. Blake, Kabīr, Nāṇak, I mean there are so many, Lao Tze. This is the Guru: is a knowledge."
1982-1101 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Śhrī Guru Nāṇaka Jayanti), Every Sahaja Yogi Has to Become a Guru, Nirmala Palace Āśhram, 99 Nightingale Lane, Balham, London SW12 8LZ, UK

"Now this Unconscious Force is within us.
Actually, God is Love and Love is God.
But our idea of love is very limited. Because we are limited. We have not reached that state of unlimited. Our mind is limited. We think in a limited way. So far as we love our children, we love our family, we love our parents or we love our country, like that it goes on expanding.
But it is not a limited thing. So what is that love which is really universal, we should try to find out.
This Love is the One, is the Power, which is called as the Holy Ghost. Is called as the Ādi Śhakti, or they say is Rūḥ. In ... in Qur'ān, it's called as Rūḥ. This Power is All-pervading Power. It's called as Chaitanya, and is described as Saundaryalaharī by Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya. Everybody has described it. Whether it is Lao Tze or it is uh, we can say, Zen system or any system which has still survived has described this as the Brahma or we can call the Power of God which is all-pervading.
But as human beings, we cannot feel it. We may feel the force of it. We may work because of it. Like Lion Club is one of the, we can say, the uh sprouting of that love. But this love, which is acting, which is manifesting, we cannot feel it."
1982-1226 Public Talk, Lions Club International, District 323-D, Pune, Maharashtra, India

Lady: Śhrī Mātājī, is Realization synonymous with the'm ... with enlightenment?
Śhrī Mātājī: Yes, of course!
Same lady: So, all Your followers that have received Realization in fact enlightenment?
Śhrī Mātājī: Yes, yes.
You see, it means you have to be enlightened. It also means Ātma-sākṣhātkār. It also means uh-uh-uh, what you call that, to be the Pīr [twice-born]. In ... in uh this thing, in uh, in Lao Tze uh uh, I think, uh ...
Dr. Warren Reeves: Tao Kashin, Mother.
Śhrī Mātājī: Ś... He says Tao, Tao, that's you have to become that. There, there are so many things. Everybody has said, "It is that you have to have."
1983-0303 Public Program, Day 2, God Has Created Us with a Purpose, Town Hall, Hay Street and Barrack Street, Perth, WA, Australia

"Everyone has said it: Christ has said it, Muhammad has said it, Buddha has said it, Mahāvīra has said it. Everyone has said the same thing! Like Lao Tze, you can say Zen system, everything has said that, "You are to be born-again," there has to be some transformation within you. They didn't tell us lies!"
1983-0308 Press Conference, The Hotel Windsor, 111 Spring Street, Melbourne, Australia

"You see, they are physically sake [sick] uh because they have lost their roots, they have gone to e-extremes and imbalances.
We cannot go to imbalance, you see. Religion is to keep yourself in balance.
There are Ten Religions in the human being, like ten valencies. As carbon has four valencies, we have ten valencies about which all the Primordial Masters, who came on this Earth, have taught. Like Lao Tze, like Socrates, we can say Abraham, Moses, and many in India also.
They came and told us that we should keep the balance. Balance of our wife [life]. Keep in the center, for the ascent. If you are not balanced you cannot ascend.
But people have gone to extremes. They are faddist[s]. Whatever you tell them: if you tell them that, 'You see, now you are not well, so you do something,' they will do it so much that they'll outwit [laughing:] everything, I can see. They always go to the extreme of everything."
1983-0308 Public Program, Day 1, Royal Exhibition Building, Carlton Gardens, 9 Nicholson Street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

"Really, the unity within us lies when you become collectively conscious. All this work has been done in the ancient times. As Muhammad was One of the Prophets who came out of the Ten Prophets: Moses, Abraham, Lao Tze, then we had also people like other Prophets, Socrates. Recently we had in India the last One: is the Sāī Nāth, not the Sathya one, but the Sāī Nāth who lived, who was representing this Great Principle of Primordial Master."
1983-0310 Public Program, Day 3, Royal Exhibition Building, Carlton Gardens, 9 Nicholson Street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

"Now, what people are enamored is that, if they see some people dancing madly, they feel enamored. Is a sign that you have not been able to understand.
We have seen Christ, we have seen Buddha, Mahāvīra, Kabīra, Nāṇaka, we had Lao Tze and so many others. Did They behave like this? Did They become mad? We have got Moses, did He become mad anytime? Was He mad anytime, behaving like a mad person?
All these new theories have started, I think, fifty years back, or about sixty years back, that people believe in these new theories and they have forgotten all the kn... traditional things that have come to us, our heritage. And we depend more on these nonsensical things, which has no moorings at all! Because the people who are supposed to be the founders of all the religions, have never behave like this, and why this new type of things that has started? That people are behaving in this manner, and accepting it to be a very normal thing."
1983-0315 Public Program, Day 1, Maccabean Hall, 146, Darlinghurst Road, Darlinghurst (eastern suburb of Sydney), New South Wales, Australia

"To think that Moses was separate from Christ is another very big mistake! There's no difference at all!
Christ Himself has said: "Those who are not against Me are with Me." Who are those who are not against Him?
Moses was there on this Earth to cross only this path. It's very symbolic the way He crossed the sea: to show how to cross this path.
He was the Incarnation, one of the Incarnations, of the Primordial Master.
There were Ten Great Incarnations of Primordial Masters. One of them was Moses, Abraham, Lao Tze, Janaka, Nāṇaka. There are ten of Them who were major Incarnations of the same principle. Muhammad.
They are all related to each other. You will be surprised what relation exists between Them. There's no fight, which you learn in your Kuṇḍalinī. They are so integrated and such a concord exists between Them. There's no fight at all.
If there is any fight it is between the evil and the good."
1983-0317 Public Program, Day 3, Maccabean Hall, 146, Darlinghurst Road, Darlinghurst (eastern suburb of Sydney), New South Wales, Australia

"Not in India, everywhere! Not only in India, everywhere.
If you read Tao, same thing. Lao Tze has said the same thing, Zen is just the same thing.
I mean, anything is the same! That you have to become a realized Soul."
1983-0525 Public Program, Within Us there Is a Power Which Can Fulfill Our Seeking, Lewes Town Council, High Street, Lewes, East Sussex, UK

"So, all the saṃnyāsa and all these ideas came gradually: everyone who came on this Earth, people have really made a mess out of them.
And Buddha's mess has gone to such an extent, that, if you see that you'll be shocked. It went into many formations.
But I heard from My son-in-law that he went and visited some of the caves where the very early Buddhist lived, very early Buddhist lived. In the caves because they were not supported by kings or anything so, they had a very bad time. And they used to live in the caves. And what My son-in-law told Me that in the caves there are writings: in Sanskrit, in Pali, and in Indian script, say-ing that, "It is the spontaneous happening that can bring forth the Self-realization." He's got that photographed.
So, it's coming forward.
You see, so they knew about it, the Sahaja Yoga. They knew about it.
But then as every religion has gone into a mess and lot of funny sort of uh-uh-uh, we can say the uh-uh-uh, funny sort of uh expressions, also, Buddhism has gone, it became Mahāyān, Hīnayān, all sorts of thing.
But one of them was called as Viditama, who ran away from India, settled down in Japan and he started the Zen system of religion, which he kept to the spontaneous happening. That's one was preserved.
Another was the Lao Tze style who did not talk of God and of Buddha, but of Ta-o Itself: the Energy or we can say about the Ādi Śhakti.
So these two good things came out of Him [Lord Buddha]."
1983-0526 Śhrī Buddha Pūjā, Brighton Center, Brighton, East Sussex, UK

"The second person who really emerged out of it, all this ritualism and all that that they had created out of Buddha's life, was Lao Tze, who preached about Tao. Tao is the All-pervading Divine Power, Power of Love. When He talked about It, He explained about It, and He is ss-started another group of people, who were to be given Realization.
But that also, [laughing:] today I find, has become Tao-ism.
Everything becomes ism, means imprisoned. Is not living! Is not there!
Is just a thought of Tao, people read, I have seen people ... uh there's one gentleman in India who has written a complete book on Tao. He's not even a realized Soul! What is he writing? I was just wondering, 'With his blind eyes, what is he describing, what colors can he describe?' "
1983-0526 Public Program, Day 1, Brighton, East Sussex, UK

"Now when this center is illumined, around it is illumined your sustainance [sustenance]. That's your Inner Religion.
The ... we call it Ten Incarnations of the Primordial Master. There are many who came, but the Ones who came in India was called as Brahmadeva uh ... was called as Dattātreya, Janaka, Rāja Janaka, the father of Sītā. In China, Lao Tze, Confucius. In uh, in the Bible, Abraham and Moses. And later on, in the uh form of uh Muhammad Sāhab. And then Janaka. No, no, Nāṇaka, I'm sorry, Nāṇaka. Nāṇak Sāhab. And in Greece, it was Socrates. They took birth on all these places. In the end, about fifty years back, or hundred years back, was born Great Primordial Master, in India, in Śhirḍī.
[Helping with the translation:] In Śhirḍī. ......
Also it creates two institutions within you, as ego and superego, which cross over at this point [shows Āgñyā]. The right one passes like this, and crosses over and covers all this area in front [shows the left side and the front of Her head]. And the another one crosses over from the left side and covers this area [shows the right side and the back of Her head]. So you have these two things described in the Chinese style of uh Lao Tze's uh, say in religion. These are the two institutions of Ha and Ṭha, two sympathetic nervous systems: one creating ego and another creating superego as a byproduct."
1983-0831 Public Program, Day 3, Geneva, Switzerland

"The same we had Lao Tze, who was the Primordial Master, one of His ten Incarnations; and the Disciple Principle was born as Viditama who started Zen. This is the reason why you find those who follow Zen, more in the paintings, poetry. [De même nous avons eu Lao Tze, qui est le Maître Primordial, une de ses dix Incarnations. Et le Principe du Disciple naquit comme Bodhidharma, qui lança le Zen. C'est pourquoi vous trouvez ceux qui sont pratiqué le Zen plutôt dans la peinture, la poésie.]"
1984-0507 Interview with Michel Sadashiva Cherney for the Sahaja Yoga Magazine in French \textcolor{greeny}{\it L'Attention, Issue 4, Pages 32 to 37}, Āśhram, 9, Allée Du Rocher, Le Raincy (13 kms E of Paris), Île-de-France, France

"So [that] the Ātmā, the Spirit, has to be found out, is said even by Muhammad Sāhab! He said, "You have to become the Pīr."
Is said by Zoroaster, is said by Lao Tze, is also said by Zen. Buddha has said it, Mahāvīra has said it, every one of Them have said it.
So many religions have started, in the name of God, without going to the Truth, that, "You have to be born-again." "
1984-0622 Public Program, The Experience of Truth, Part I, Polytechnic of the South Bank (now London South Bank University), 103 Borough Road, Newington, Southwark, London, UK

"And you enjoy your virtues, you enjoy your magnanimity, you enjoy your uh-uh-uh generosity. People will tell you, 'Stupid fool, you go on distributing things, what's are you doing?', ah you laugh at them.
As Lao Tze had said – somebody told Me this saying about Lao Tze, another Great Incarnation of the Primordial Master – that, "When a wise sees the way, he respects it and says, 'This is the way.' That's the s-s... sign of a wise man, and a mediocre, who is halfway this way and that way, when he sees the way he waits [for] others to go into it. And when the stupid sees the way, he laughs. But when the wise sees the stupid, in himself, he laughs." "
1984-0708 Public Program, The Experience of Truth, Part III, Town Hall, Ilford (16 kms E-NE of London), Greater London, UK (another date 0709)

"So this kind of a challenge, only a person who is a realized Soul can put it. And all realized Souls will stand by with that person: they'll have the same voice about it. Whether you go to the antiquities or you go in the future, any time a realized Soul will come he said the same thing.
That's why there is so much similarity, s-s... I should say the unity: in all these people whether it is Lao Tze, or whether it is Muhammad Sāhab or whether it is Rāja Janaka or Nāṇaka, They say the same thing."
1984-0710 Public Program, The Experience of Truth, Part IV, Town Hall, Chiswick, London W4, UK

"We have been seeking before also. As amoeba we have been seeking, as animals we have been seeking, as human beings we have been seeking in power, in positions, in money, in possessions, in relationships.
But what we have discovered is that: even when everything is all right, we feel, 'We are very far away from joy.' The joy is lost. We've come so far and we feel: 'There is no joy.' Where is that lost? Where is it that you have to find the joy?
You refer back to the Scriptures, like Bible, Qur'ān, Gītā, Lao Tze's treaties, anything you read, you find it's a very mysterious thing that they have described. But one thing they have said: that, "You have to be born again [born-again]."
Like there is a mysterious place to describe and we say: 'You have to enter into it.' But nobody says how! Nobody knows how! But indicates one thing, that: 'The human awareness is inadequate.'
There has to be a higher awareness to our evolution, because we have not achieved the top-most stage.
To achieve that Ultimate, Absolute Stage, something more has to happen in our evolutionary process, which is a living process, which is not a dead process."
1984-0801 Public Program, The Work of the Divine, Guildhall Theatre, Market Place, Derby, Derbyshire, UK

"Now whatever Arneau has told you, or whatever I am going to tell you, is the knowledge of the roots, which was kept secret for thousands of years. And first time in the sixth century people started talking openly about it and telling: what are we inside ourselves.
But all the Great Incarnations who came in this tradition of spirituality, one by one manifested, every time, a new awareness in the human dimension.
In the ancient time when they followed Patañjali Yoga, that time, they were hardly one or two people whom Realization was given. Like Rāja Janaka gave Realization to one person, who was the father-in-law of Śhrī Rām.
Then came Moses, Abraham, all these Great Prophets who tried to establish wit... within us the Divine Laws. They told us what are these Divine Laws within us which act, what are our valances as any element has. Invariably, all of Them, from Socrates onward, They all said that there are ten valances within us, like Ten Commandments, which we have to keep them intact.
Out of these people, the Prophets, came oh most of the religions of early times. Like Judaism and other, Zoroastrism, Lao Tze, all these people were saying the same and same thing, that, 'We must have a balance within ourselves to establish the Divine Laws within ourselves.'
But when Moses saw that the people were so much anti-God and so much anti-Divinity, He put forward a very strong type of a law which we call as śharīat. These laws were made for Jews, but actually they are followed by Muslim people."
1984-0830 Public Program, Lausanne, Vaud, Switzerland

"Now, since long, from ancient times, we have been hearing about the Spirit: that, 'We are the Spirit,' 'We have to become the Spirit.' Whether you take Confucius, or you have Lao Tze, or you have any Indian philosopher, or you may be having any one of the others in the West where Christ has said many a times that, 'We have to be the Spirit.' "
1984-1122 Public Program, Hampstead Town Hall Centre, 213 Haverstock Hill, London NW3 4QP, UK

"And that is what is dharma: is the ten valences within us. These ten valances are nothing but dharma, which was preached by all the Great Saints. We can start it from Ādināth, we can say Lao Tze, we can say Confucius, we can say Zoroaster, we can say Muhammad Sāhab, we can say Nāṇak Sāhab, we can say Janaka, we can say the, all of Them are the representation or manifestation of Dattātreya, which we know very well in Maharashtra what is Dattātreya.
But despite all that, we do not know: we'll worship Dattātreya, and we will not follow Him.
This is the only problem we have. That: we have all the ideals, we have all the capacity to understand that this is something great, but we have no power to follow it. Because we are not Samartha, we are not equal to the meaning of a human being."
1984-1205 Public Program (English+Marathi), Day 2, Pune, Maharashtra, India

"This is Yin and Yang, is, if you see these two are Yin and Yeng [Yang]. And what is described in the martial arts is, is actually later on followed by it.
But actually Zen is nothing, Zen means meditation. Zen, Zen means meditation.
And, you see, the description, even of Lao Tze, of Tao is the same of the Kuṇḍalinī rising. You see, the Yangtze River, I've gone through that, you see, and it's really the description of the Kuṇḍalinī Itself how It raises, and Tao is nothing but the Kuṇḍalinī. He's describes that. The name is different. But Ta-o means the Kuṇḍalinī.
Now, these are the two things which are in our brain, you see, really placed like that, Yin and Yang. You see there, if you cut your heads transverse you will find these two things placed like that, this Yin and Yang. And this is what Zen was talking about."
1985-0303 Public Program, Adelaide, SA, Australia

"Then we have people, in other countries, like Abraham, like Moses, we have Confucius, Lao Tze, we have Kṛiṣhṇa, Rāma, all of Them have said one thing, and one thing: that, "You seek your Spirit." "
1985-0419 Public Program, The Seeking of the Spirit, Hall, Bull Street, Birmingham, UK

"Now the Indians are very clever, as far as the spiritual side is concerned, I must say. Now they would say that: "We must have at least ten Pūjās, somehow, when Mother comes here." So they'll manage: "This is also there," then, "This is also there," then, "What about Muhammad Sāhabs' birthday?", then, "What about Moses' birthday?", which it they don't know, but they'll find out somehow. [Laughter.] And then, "What about also Lao Tze's birthday, why not find it out? So, when Mother is here, invariably every third day let us have a Pūjā." "
1985-0420 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Mahāmāyā Śhakti, Seminar, Day 1, Session 1 (morning), Mason Hall, University, Birmingham, West Midlands, UK

"Now, this question follows another question: that if you are the Spirit, [then] you are your own guide, you are own guru, you are your own master. So now you put your right hand on the upper part of your stomach on the left-hand side, which is the center of mastery. This is the center which is created by the Masters, the Great Masters, who are Sadgurus, who are Real Masters, like Abraham, Moses, Janak, Nāṇak, Lao Tze, Muhammad Sāhab. Now, you take this hand little deep, prarsee [press it], push it little deep into that area in the upper part of the abdomen, and ask a question three times, 'Mother, am I my own guide? Am I my own master? Am I my own guru?' Ask in your heart."
1985-0422 Public Program, Day 1, Université Paris Diderot Paris 7, 5 Rue Thomas Mann, Paris, France

"Kuṇḍalinī has been described fourteen thousand years back by a great poet called Mārkaṇḍeya in our country.
I told you the other day that in Qur'ān It is described as 'Asas, and in Granth Sāhab as Surati, and in the Bible as the Holy Ghost.
......
In the Zen system also, It is described, of uh Zen system of Viditama It is described, and also Lao Tze has described It. Every one of them have described It."
1985-0424 Public Program, Day 2, CEDIAS-Musée Social, 5, Rue las Cases, Paris, France

"So the ascent of the Kuṇḍalinī is a living process within you, which works out the Self-realization, the Second Birth as Christ has said, as Muhammad Sāhab has said, "You have to be a Walī," as Lao Tze has said, and Confucius has described. We have Nāṇaka and Janaka who have talked about it. That it is within us, and we have to achieve it within ourselves. ......
So only by believing [laughing:] that you are great, you don't become great.
This Spirit, when It shines, you become the True Knowledge. The falsehood drops out. The whole veil of ignorance goes away, and you see the light of Truth.
None of the Great Saints have been to any universities, colleges, anywhere. They have been very simple people, and what knowledge! From where did this knowledge come in? They never read any books! How did they know? Lao Tze never went to any college. Socrates did not go to any college. From where did they learn all this knowledge?
You yourself, you are the store of knowledge, only you are to be connected with it.
So when you get connected like this instrument, or any instrument, it starts working automatically."
"
1985-0509 Public Program, Day 2, Habit Comes to You from Matter, Münich, Germany

"Like I was in Pune the other day, and I met some very learned Sanskrit scholars. And I was amazed: that they all were suffering from all kinds of diseases of a very serious nature. They said we have a guru, another said he had a guru. I said, "How is it you are suffering from disease? If you have a guru at least your health should be all right, at least minimum of minimum." "Oh," they said, "no! This is something we are doing very ... uh serious work." "What is that?" They started giving Me names: aruṇopāy, tar[u]ṇopāy, this, that. Buthey said: that, "Our guru gives us a śhaktipāt." I said, "What is all that? I have never heard [about] it. In what book have you found it? Is it in Vedas? Is it in Purāṇas? Is it in the Gītā? Or is it in the Bible or Qur'ān, where is it? Did Lao Tze talk about it or Socrates? From where do you get this word śhaktipāt suddenly? I've never heard about it." So they said about sixty, seventy years back there was a gentleman called Viṣhṇu Tīrth, he has written a book, a book, and all this is based on that śhaktipāt business. I said, "I've never heard of this Viṣhṇu Tīrth." "
1985-0510 Public Program, Becoming the Light within, Hampstead Town Hall Centre, 213 Haverstock Hill, London NW3 4QP, UK

"Like in China, Confucius said that, "You must become very virtuous, righteous," because the Chinese were lethargic farmers, "and you must work," humanism He started. But now they found out that now they are going too much towards it. So Lao Tze came. You see, They had to work it out, because some people move like a pendulum on one side, then They have to move them on the other side. Lao Tze came, He talked about Tao."
1985-0627 Public Program, Day 2, Chakras, Elements and Their Qualities, Colegio Mayor Chaminade, Paseo de Juan XXIII, No. 9, Madrid, Spain

"Now when I'm talking to you about the mechanism that is built within us for our last breakthrough, you need not believe Me.
In our country also, this knowledge was kept a secret for thousands of years. Though we can say people like Mārkaṇḍeya, whose dates could be fourteen thousand [years ago], or later on, up to Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, people did write about the Kuṇḍalinī.
And at the time of Ādi Śhaṅkarāchārya, He very clearly talked about it. That was the tradition of evolution described in all these great Scriptures.
Even in the Bible, you find the Tree of Fire. It says: "I will appear before you as tongues of flames."
Even Muhammad Sāhab, who came much later, very clearly, very, very clearly, and elaborately, at length, talked about the Resurrection Day. He said: "At the Time of Resurrection, your hands will speak."
But everybody missed the point.
Zoroaster talked about it thousands of years back. Confucius, Lao Tze, everyone talked about it: that, 'We have to be the Spirit.'
Christ clearly said: "You are to be born-again!" Then Nicodemus asked Him: "Do you mean to say, I should enter into the womb of my mother?" "No," He said, "whatever is born of the flesh is the flesh. You are to be born of the Holy Ghost." "
1985-0703 Public Program, Day 1, Nederlands Congresgebouw (now World Forum), Churchillplein 10, The Hague, Netherlands

"The reflection of Holy Ghost within us is the Kuṇḍalinī, and the reflection of Christ within us is the Spirit.
[After 12 seconds:] But everybody has played the role. Like Moses, like Abraham, like Socrates, like Lao Tze, everybody has played the role to build up this drama.
They are all part and parcel of One Being. This one you must understand.
When we said, "There is One God," He's not like Tock of Gibraltar. That, even Rock of Gibraltar has got different uh molecules, you see. But to ask, 'God is one,' means, I don't know, I cannot think of [laughing:] something, just a one block. He's not. He has many aspects, and these aspects are expressed in these different ways.
Of course He's one, united, integrated, one. But all these aspects are there.
And this 'One God' is either in the pockets of the priests or the pockets of the Brahmins or the pockets of the mullahs or the pockets of someone. 'One God.' "
1985-0920 Public Program, Memorial Hall, City Hall, Sheffield, UK

"You'll be surprised when you get your spiritual awakening, your spiritual light, you will see that all of Them who came forward were all related to each other. They were all One Family, only the people who followed them made the mistake of plucking the flowers from the One Free.
So with the spiritual ascent, you rise into a New Religion of Universality.
So wher[e] Socrates, Lao Tze, Abraham, Moses to today's great philosophers, all reside together.
All the Incarnations, like Christ, Kṛiṣhṇa, Rāma, all of Them are related with each other. They came on this Earth to create a [the] milestones of our ascent.
And when you come to Sahaja Yoga, you will be amazed to know: that a new light is thrown in their lives and in the Real Religion.
By just talking about them you cannot believe into such things.
But when you get these Divine Vibrations, you ask the question. And when that is the truth, you start feeling the Cool Breeze flowing into your hands, and you'd know that that's the truth. Because this new awareness has not come in you, that's why you cannot definitely say that, 'This is this.'
It's everything relative at this stage. But at the stage where you become the Spirit, It being absolute, you get Absolute Knowledge.
So we respect all these Great Incarnations, and then understand what They have done for us."
1985-1009 Public Program, Nature of Truth, Salle de La Marseillaise, Palais des Fetes, 34 Boulevard Clemenceau, Strasbourg, France

"You may read the books written by famous personalities like Socrates, Lao Tze, Confucius, who have said, "One should get one's Self-realization." "
1986-0401 Public Program (Hindi), Day 2, Ghanaśhyām das Birla Sabhaghar, 29 Ashutosh Choudhry Avenue, Near Birla Mandir, Ballygunge, Kolkata, West Bengal, India

"Now, we can say that Christ has always said that, "You are to be born-again." In all the religions, which are true religions, it is said, "You are to be born-again"!
Actually, in India, which is a country which we think is not very developed, has been always the idea that you have to achieve your Self-realization.
Zen has said the same thing, Lao Tze's Tao is the same thing, in Islam it is said the same thing. Muhammad Sāhab has said that: "In the Time of Resurrection your hands will speak."
But they [the Muslims] do not talk of the Resurrection. They talk of the Doomsday, which is a wee part in the Qur'ān.
Christians, also, don't talk about what John has said or Christ has said that, "I'll send you the Holy Ghost." That: 'You will get your redemption, your comfort and your counseling,' through that Person."
1986-0520 Public Program, Day 1, Faculté de Medicine Lariboisière Saint-Louis, Université Paris Diderot (Paris 7), 10 Avenue de Verdun, Paris, France

"And also, in all Indian Scriptures it is described that you have to get your Self-realization, and that you feel a Cool Breeze of the Ādi Śhakti or, as described in the Bible, of the Holy Ghost.
Zen has talked about it, Lao Tze has talked about it, all of Them have talked about this. Even Socrates has talked about that.
But all these Saints, Prophets and Incarnations had to suffer a lot because of the ignorance and ego of human beings. They made the lives of all these Saints so miserable that they did not have any time to explain these things so clearly in those days. They were so arrogant and so cruel that they could not see Divinity in anyone. They'd no sensitivity to understand what was Divine."
1986-0522 Public Program, Day 1, Colegio Mayor, Universitario Isabel de España, Madrid, Spain

"As a result, Kuṇḍalinī has started moving. So now, to enlarge the higher centers, and to give full confidence to the Kuṇḍalinī, we have to put our r... right hand in the upper part of the abdomen on the left-hand side and press it hard, and say here, will full confidence in yourself: 'Mother, I am my own master. Mother, I am my own guide.' Please say it with full confidence. There's no ego about it. With full confidence you must say, so the center of your mastery will open out and the Kuṇḍalinī can pass through well. It's effortless. Only thing we are helping the Kuṇḍalinī to have Her own way upward. This you have to say ten times because there are ten petals to this. This is actually the Ten Commandments which represent these ten petals and there were Ten Sadgurus in the past who came again and again on this Earth: like Prophets, like Moses, like Abraham, like Lao Tze, like Socrates. [After 15 seconds:] Please say this ten times."
1986-0530 Public Program, Day 1, Pyramid, Unity (Church of Christianity), 2929 Unity Drive, Houston, TX, U.S.A.

"The authority with which Moses talked, authority with which Socrates talked, authority with which Lao Tze talked ... All these great Ādi Gurus, from Ādināth to Sāī Nāth, They didn't say, 'If you do this way will be good,' or, 'That way would be good.' No! "This is what it is, you better do it!"
This is what it is!"
1986-0706 Guru Pūjā, Cosmic Consciousness, Hall, Kongresshaus Toscana, Toscanapark und Ruhe, Johann Orth-Allee 23, Gmunden (75 kms E of Salzburg), Austria

"Now the contradiction, again people use, about Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, in so many other ways, that it is surprising: that not only Chris-s-s [Christ], not only Muhammad Sāhab, not only Lao Tze, not only Śhrī Rāma but even Kṛiṣhṇa was misused by His followers.
He's the One who is taṭasth, the One – taṭastha means who stands on the banks of the attention and sees everything, who watches everything. He is the One who is the witness. It described: "Sākṣhi rūpeṇa saṃsthitā," sā... it becomes a sākṣhi, a witness. That's what He has said, "It's a play! it's a play!"
But in the name of Kṛiṣhṇa, you'll find all kinds of absurd things people do. They make dramas, they become Kṛiṣhṇas, they become [unclear] , they make people ..., befool them, make money out of it, or they sell books on the street.
Like if you go to Southall you'll find so many Westerners wearing funny dresses going round asking for alms from Indians. And Indians say, 'Oh look at that! These beggars, you see they have come to get some, let us give them some money.'' "
1986-0823 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, before Dinner and Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa Pūjā, Hotel Primerose (now Hostellerie am Schwarzsee), Seestrasse 10, Schwarzsee (2k kms SE of Fribourg), Valais, Switzerland

"Mahāvīra talked about it, Nāṇaka talked about it, uh-uh Buddha talked about it, Zen talked about it, Lao Tze talked about it.
All this has happened! They were not insane people by any chance. They never harmed anyone by Their theories as Freud has done.
And we should not doubt Them because we have limited intelligence."
1986-0916 Public Program, Hall, The General Art Center Op Gouden Wieken (demolished in 1992), Scheveningseweg 237, The Hague, Netherlands

"We have heard about the All-pervading Divine Power. Right from Lao Tze to Christ, to Buddha, all of Them have talked about it.
We did not know about ether before, but we have heard about the Divine Power which is all-pervading.
Once you are united with it, connected with it, then only you realize that you are a part and parcel of the whole. But before that, it's only talk. Talk of religion, talk about all philosophies, is just a talk.
Without any experience of this Divine Power, if we are going to believe into these talks and these dogmas, also these mental projections, we'll reach a state where we will say: 'We don't believe in it.' But this is not the way to know the Divine."
1986-0917 Public Program, Collège Saint-Michel, Boulevard Saint-Michel 24, Etterbeek, Brussels-Capital Region, Belgium

"If you read Lao Tze, Confucius and all the great philosophers, they all have talked about achieving Self-realization.}"
1986-1011 Public Program (Hindi) (8th Day of Navarātri), Sahajyog ke Anubhav (Experience of Sahaja Yoga), Ice Skating Ring, Kolkata, West Bengal, India (place and date not sure)

"That is how the beauty is expressed through the holy hands of holy people, all over the world.
I don't know nowadays if it is done so.
Even in those days-s-s, at the time of Socrates, Lao Tze, philosophy was the dominating subject. People thought philosophy was the epitome of knowledge.
But suddenly then it turned to economics, and that's the place we have l... we lost our heritage of creativity, of the Divine Values, of the Divine Guṇas."
1987-0102 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (English + Marathi), Beauty Must Have Auspiciousness, before the Evening Program, Session 1 (before Dinner), Gaṇapatīpuḷe, Maharashtra, India

"But everyone has talked about your Re-birth, whether it was Christ, or Muhammad Sāhab, Socrates, Lao Tze, anyone. You are to be born-again, then you will know the reality.
But it is not some sort of a brand, or some sort of a[n] organization to which you belong and you's call yourself, 'I am a born-realized.' This is falsehood.
And, if you have to be compromising with falsehood, we cannot have the beauty and glory of reality.
We have to be honest to know the Truth. And that honesty is as simple as this: to say that, 'So far, I have not known the Truth. I've believed into this and that, but I have not known the truth.' "
1987-1102 Public Program, Day 1, Power that Comes with Your Second Birth and Know the Truth, Salle C, Maison de la Mutualité, 24 Rue Saint-Victor, 5th Arrondissement, Paris, France

"We have to make great people out of you. Many Abraham Lincolns and Lenin, Lao Tzes, Mozarts, all have to come out of you. We have to create William Blake out of you.
They were only one or two, I was not present at that time, still they survived and created great works.
In the same way out of you, we have to create these great people.
But first you must realize: that you have to be absolutely cleansed out, and give up all the false, funny ideas that you have."
1987-1221 Pūjā (Marathi + English + Marathi + English), Become Beautiful Vessels of Vibrations and Attention on Quality, House of Madhukar Bhikobā Dhumāḷ, near Railway Station, Rāhurī, Maharashtra, India

"And in every religion whatsoever, even in Islam it is said, "You have to become a Walī." In Christianity it is said, "You are to be born-again." In Buddhism it is said, "You have to become Buddha," means you should be knowledgeable. In M... Mahāvīra's things He has said, "You must get your Self-realization." Lao Tze has said it. Shouish, just if you start from Socrates onward – of course, we should forget about Plato and these people because I don't think they had much sense of spirituality – but most of these people have talked about Self-realization. And there's no religion in which they have not talked about Self-realization. Even in the Judaism or where the ... they believe in the coming of the Savior for their salvation, even they have talked about it."
1990-0107 Pūjā (English + Hindi), We Must Know Who Is the God and Who Is the Goddess and If You Have to Gain Anything in This Pūjā, You Have to Give it the Highest Priority (Science of Spirituality), Gaṇapatīpuḷe, Maharashtra, India

"I think Chinese will take to Sahaja Yoga very easily, you see, because they're very wise people to begin with and they have such an ancient tradition.
And all the traditional people take to Sahaja Yoga very fast, I've seen.
Like in Egypt some people I met, they've been calling Me but I said, "Let there be some more, then I'll come."
Also in Italy itself, Italy is doing very well.
And China I think is such a wise country, you had such great philosophers and you had Lao Tze, such a great philosopher because He's the One who came up with absolutely clear-cut ideas about ..., very clear-cut ideas and what He has preached in the Zen system of religion is the same as Sahaja Yoga.
Zen means dhyāna, means dhyān, is the meditation. And Zen system is practiced in the same manner as we practice Sahaja Yoga. But you have to have realized Souls to practice it."
1990-0228 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, in Transit, Changi Airport, Singapore

"This is all absolutely traditional but is not a dead tradition.
It's like the Tree of Spirituality, which had very few flowers. Now the tree has evolved, and there are many flowers. So, it is not hanging in the air or something new. But, supposing, you see a flower on the tree, it's a new thing you feel, but it's built in.
Is all built in, coming through all the traditions of the world.
Everyone has said that, "You must seek your Self"! Everyone has said. There's no .... no Scripture that has not said so. That's what it is!
But, how to achieve it, is rarely described, and one step forward is that: you can achieve it en mass. That's what is, we can say, the evolution in this spiritual method has reached.
All of them were born on the Tree of Life. All of them: one [Tree of Life], at different times.
But people plucked the flowers, and said that, 'This is my flower,' 'This is my flower,' and are fighting with the dead flowers.
Lao Tze said the same thing, if you say, start from Confucius to Lao Tze, to this side you go ... to the other side of it uh ... uh Christ has said the same thing. I mean, endless people. Muhammad said the same thing, Abraham said the same thing, then Rāma, Kṛiṣhṇa, all of them have said the same thing. All the Saints, the real Saints of the world has [have] said the same thing. Because they knew that people are still not at that level."
1990-0306 Public Program, Day 1, Camberwell Civic Center, 340 Camberwell Road, Camberwell, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Sahaja Yogi: [Summarizes a gentleman:] "Is Kuṇḍalinī the only force in this particular time, that will do this particular job?"
Śhrī Mātājī: No, all the time this was the force, all the time. Is all the time, this was the force. It's called, also, in the Bible it is said, that, about the Tree of Life, is this mechanism. Also said that, "I'll p... appear before you as tongues of flames," is the Kuṇḍal... the ... when the Kuṇḍalinī rises, then your centers look like that. So many things there are even in the Bible. In everything, in Qur'ān it is called as 'Asas. The names are different, but it is so.
Like Tao is the Kuṇḍalinī. Tao as described, is also Kuṇḍalinī.
Zen system, Zen also means the same, Dhyāna, is the same thing.
Confucius talked of the same thing, Socrates talked of the same thing.
But only thing it was not so said so clearly. Because there were not people intelligent as you are today, to understand [laughing:] it, I think, that it was not said so clearly.
1990-0314 Public Program, Day 2, Auckland, New Zealand

"Now, so first we put our right hand on our heart. And then we put our right hand in the upper portion of our abdomen where is the center of our mastery. This is created by all the Great Masters. Like Abraham, Moses, Lao Tze, so many of Them who were real Masters, They have created this. Like Guru Nāṇaka, Janaka, all these people have created this great center within us."
1990-0811 Public Program, Canadadeśha, Music Academy, 1270 Chestnut Street, Kitsilano, Vancouver, BC, Canada

"All the Saints have said that, "You have to know your Self." Unless and until you know your Self, the illusion and the ignorance won't go.
If you see in the Chinese, right from Confucius, Lao Tze, all of them have talked about it. For Christians, Christ has said the same thing. For Sikhs, Guru Nāṇaka has the said the same thing, that, "You must seek the Truth." "
1990-1101 Public Program, Day 1, Girls Guide Hall, Brickfields, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

"So what we need is a transformation.
And the time has come for us to achieve the transformation, which is described in all the Scriptures: in the Bible it is dexcribed [described] as the Second Birth, even in the Hindu Scripture is described as the Brahmagyān, or you can call it again the Second Birth, dvijaḥ, it is described in the Bib... in the Qur'ān, is described in all the Buddha's teachings, described by Mahāvīra, is described by Nāṇaka, by all the religious people, even Confucius has talked about it, Lao Tze has talked about it."
1991-0416 Public Program, Day 1, State Theatre, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

"And Sahaj Yog is in vogue from time immemorial in our country.
Guru Nāṇak said about Sahaja Samādhi.
Which Saint has not talked about Sahaj?
If you see Lao Tze, He said the same thing.
If you see Socrates, He talked about the same thing.
But we are like we have closed our eyes."
1991-1216 Public Program (Hindi + Marathi), Day 1, Kuṇḍalinī Eka Mahāna Śhakti (Kuṇḍalinī Is a Great Power), Grounds, New English School, Tilak Road, Pune, Maharashtra, India

"I never read Scriptures, [laughs] I don't think I have to read them because I know them, but I was reading uh the Qur'ān and also the Bible uh from this science, Christian science thing. All other scriptures also. I mean, what they are saying is absolutely true, that you have to be righteous, you have to be above vi[o]lence, you have to be detached. All these things are absolutely the same, no doubt. There's no change. In all these Scriptures they say the same thing. This was said about eight thousand] [8,000] years back by Śhrī Rāma, then by Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, then it was said by Socrates, Lao Tze, Abraham. All of Them have said the same thing. Then Muhammad Sāhab said the same thing, Nāṇaka said the same thing."
1992-0221 Public Program, Day 2, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

"Those who were Saints, in any country, take it Lao Tze, you can take from Socrates onward this side, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak Sāhab, all of these people, you will be amazed to find that all these people behaved in such a manner that we cannot find faults with them. I mean if you want to find, you may with your ignorance. But the kind of life if They led, how is it that They were like that? What was so great? It was Their Divinity which expressed.
While we all have this Divinity within ourselves, we have all these powers within ourselves, only thing: we have to use those powers, we have to manifest them. And for that manifestation, is ... is important that we have to become self-realized, in the sense that you have to get your Second Birth.
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This-s old science is not only from India. It comes from everywhere. As I told you Confucius knew this, Socrates knew this, and, also, many people like William Blake and C.S. Lewis, all these people knew about it.
But nobody could put it through to people because, I think, people did not want to accept it."
1992-0226 Public Program, Christchurch Town Hall (now Christchurch Town Hall of the Performing Arts), 86 Kilmore Street, Christchurch Central City, Christchurch, New Zealand

This is the area [void] which we say is-ss within us built up by the-ee Great Prophets. "You can start, say, Abraham, Moses, Socrates, Lao Tze, all these Great Prophets have built this area within us.
And this represents ten valencies, like Ten Commandments. Carbon has got four valencies, we have got ten valencies. And these ten valenji-cies [valencies] are our real actual human nature, which we can call is the religion within ourselves."
1992-0228 Public Program, Newcastle (160 kms N of Sydney), New South Wales, Australia

"I don't know how many of you have really seen the Buddhists or have met them, those who call themselves Buddhist. As in every religion, all of them got lost into some sort of a fundamentalisism [fundamentalism], because none of them got Realization. And that's why everybody established their own style of religion, even you can say that Tao of Lao Tze also, or Zen of Viditama, all of them are offshoots of the same.
.......
Then that's second type of Buddhism came, where this uh Lao Tze taught about Tao. But Tao actually is, He's the only one who started talking about Kuṇḍalinī, Tao is the Kuṇḍalinī. But that, too, was too much for these people. They just couldn't understand what He was talking about. But the way He expressed Himself in paintings and other things, just to deviate from that kind of a harsh Buddhism.
But somehow, despite that, it never took proper roots. And they, I have met people who follow Tao and absolutely you don't understand how these people are following the path of Kuṇḍalinī.
There's a river called Yangtze by which, when you travel, you find variety of things. After every five minutes the scene changes, all the uh beautiful mountains take another form, and you have lots of waterfalls, and is very interesting. That is the Kuṇḍalinī. Tao is that river. But it said that you should not divert your attention to these temptations which are outside. You should see them, but move. And that is what is Tao, which He brought in."
1992-0531 Śhrī Buddha Pūjā, The Search for the Absolute, Śhuddhi Camp (now The Hall, Shudy Camps Park), Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, UK

"The first wrong idea he [Paul] started was that ... of original sin.
How can it be original sin, when He attended the wedding?
[Repeats for th translator:] How can marriage be an original sin [unclear]?
He attended the wedding! That means, did He want to encourage the original sin‽ 'That means all those who got married have been committing original sins. Śhrī Rāma, Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, Muhammad Sāhab, uh-uh-uh Nāṇak Sāhab, Lao Tze, all of Them got married: They were all sinners.' On absolutely wrong premises."
1992-0723 Public Program, Zala Festivalna, 1111 ж.к. Гео Милев, Sofia, Bulgaria

"William Blake, a great poet from England, has said that, "This idea of original sin has been invented by some devil."
According to this [idea], everybody and every Incarnation, like Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, Śhrī Rāma, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak Sāhab, Lao Tze, everybody is a sinner!
Such an absurd thing that was put forward, and because it was a very dominating religion, was the official religion behaving like a tyrannical king, people had to accept! Those people who did not believe in it were boiled, were roasted in the huts."
1992-0724 Public Program, Salle Gaveau, 45-47 Rue La Boétie, Paris, France

"The first thing was the idea of original sin.
William Blake, a great poet, said: that, :This idea has come through the head of some Satan."
According to this theory, 'Everyone of us is a sinner, all the Incarnations like Śhrī Kṛiṣhṇa, Śhrī Rāma, They were sinners. Prophets like Muhammad, Nāṇaka, Lao Tze, all of Them were sinners.'
When this kind of an artificial idea is pushed onto your head, then natural things start coming out, and that's how they took to Freud. That is how Freud became a very great person.
Now, what he has given us e... are according to this book ['Freudian Fraud'] is AIDS, and all kinds of secret diseases which are dangerous."
1992-0726 Public Program, Linz, Austria

"In the same way in the Hindu Scriptures or the Buddhist Scriptures, anywhere you go, take Lao Tze [laughing:] or any one of them, the description of a religious man is very different from the people who practice so-called that religion. There's [laughing:] such a difference. And they admit! They all admit [it] also. Why there is so much difference?
For example, somebody is a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, whatever it is: anyone can commit any sin, anyone can kill anyone, anyone can hate anyone. Nobody stops because he follows a particular religion, or uh because there is righteousness in his character.
So, there is no Innate Righteousness within us."
1992-0913 Public Program, Robson Square Conference Center, 800 Robson Street, Vancouver, BC, Canada

"We have had lots of good people, during this short time if you see. See, if you see, Mahātmā Gāndhī was there's, Martin Luther was there, all kinds of people you see uh-uh-uh all over, uh Abraham Lincoln was there, uh George Washington was there, we have uh William Blake was there, uh we had Shakespeare.
All this, this time, you see in the literature, in every way, Lao Tze, then we had uh-uh-uh Socrates. Will start from Socrates to today, we have had lots of philosopher[s], lots of people who talked about [a] higher life.
Despite that, people were thinking, 'These are some absurd people, there's nothing in it now, too much to understand.' Nobody would read anything about, uh-uh-uh say, Guru Gītā they would not. They would think a, 'What's this nonsense? What's the use? It's all humbug going on,' like that."
1993-0606 Śhrī Ādi Śhakti Kuṇḍalinī Pūjā, Incarnation of Divine Love, Tent, Cabella Ligure, Alessandria, Italy

Śhrī Mātājī: [It is] as if the Mahālakṣhmī Principle holds the reins. And you cannot cross the limits: you cannot go too much to the left or to the right.
By this Principle you realize what is wrong with the outside religions. You realize also that inside all the religions are born like flowers on the same of Tree of Spirituality. And automatically you start worshiping all the Prophets, right from Abraham, Moses, Confucius, Lao Tze, Muhammad Sāhab, Nāṇak.
Sahaja Yogi translator: Mh-hm?
Guido Lanza: Confucius, Lao Tze, Nāṇak.
Śhrī Mātājī: You worship Them! It is not that you have respect, but you worship.
And thus you lose the barriers of fundamentalism.
1993-0908 Śhrī Mahālakṣhmī Pūjā, National Palace of Culture (NDK), Boulevard Bulgaria, 1463 NDK, Sofia, Bulgaria

[Talking about Confucius and Lao Tze, She says that all these Masters talked to people, in the language suitable for the times. Whereas Confucius came to teach about humanity, Lao Tze talked of Tao, which is nothing but Kuṇḍalinī. When Śhrī Mātājī was sailing down the Yangtze River, She remembered how Lao Tze had described this river as Tao. This river is so beautiful on both the sides, that all inspirations of Chinese Paintings come from there: In His poem, Lao Tze has described Tao as that there are beautiful things on the way, but one should be on the move, should not get attracted, but be a mere witness. When the river (Tao) gets near the ocean, it becomes quiet, and it is only then that it enters the ocean.]
1993-1113 Interview with Prof. Yuriy A. Voronov, Moscow, Russia

"Buddha said the same, Mahāvīra said the same, Christ said the same, Kṛiṣhṇa said the same, Rāma said the same, Lao Tze, you find everyone, the Zen, everybody said the same thing that we have to achieve that world, that we have to enter into the Kingdom of God."
1994-0321 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Birthday Felicitations, before Birthday Pūjā, Kalā Mandir Hall, Kolkata, West Bengal, India

"I'm very thankful to [Deputy Lord Mayor] Mister Henry Tsang for addressing you and introducing Me to you. That's very kind of him. It is one of the very rare occasions where I have seen people in authority have understood My work and have tried to help Me.
Whatever he said is really very remarkable, that: all these greater people, like Lao Tze who started Taoism, Buddha who was teaching Buddhism, all of Them talked about the Oneness of human being with the Nature. And if you cannot combine Nature with your Self, then you cannot be called as a[n] evolved Soul.
In that thing I was telling him about Yangtze River, where he comes from the same ... uh-uh-uh-uh ... state Yangtze, that Yangtze River I have traveled through with My husband, and it's-ss the one Lao Tze has used for describing a human accent.
Is a river which goes in different angles and makes lots of currents, and is very dangerous to ply through that.
But they are having an, now a uh tourist uh ... arrangement to go through that, and My husband as he was in the maritime, they invited us to see that.
So, in that the message was: that, you see, you are passing through a very beautiful land, you see across the banks beautiful ... uh ... trees and very beautiful mountains, which you see in the paintings of Chinese. They are really like that. But you should not get lost: you have to go further. You can watch ... uh ... these ... uh, all these beautiful scenes, uh sit down there, enjoy yourself, but still you have to go with the stream.
And then you go further and further, He describes very well in His Tao.
Tao means that it is.
And it started showing such beautiful uh ... uh-uh-uh scenes, sometimes, that I really [laughing:] felt that, 'I should get out of the boat and sit down there,' like ...
And, but He was meaning that in your meditation, when you are moving, you should not get tempted by this outward ... uh-uh-uh-uh ... fascination of nature also, but you enjoy, be one with it, you just see it, enjoy it. And then He says that the river flows closer to the sea, that is the ultimate aim of the river, then she becomes absolutely silent and she spreads outs [out]. And then gradually she moves towards the sea.
Is such a beautiful description, and I have seen it Myself when I can understand the poet how He wanted to con... communicate that how the nature should teach us how to be meditative within ourselves."
1994-0406 Public Program, An Ancient Knowledge, Centennial Hall, Town Hall, 483 George Street, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Śhrī Mātājī: So when this power, Kuṇḍalinī, passes through these six centers within us, She nourishes them, and integrates them.
Lao Tze called it as Tao.
[To the translator:] Lao Tze from ...
Sahaja Yogi tranlator: Call It what, Śhrī Mātājī? Sorry.
Śhrī Mātājī: They all talked of the same thing.
1994-0418 Public Program, Kanda Panse Hall, Panse (Holy Field), Chiyoda, Tokyo, Japan

"And you know everything! All the subtle knowledge which was not known to you.
Then you can understand uh-uh-uh Tao of Lao Tze, you can ... you can understand uh Buddha, Zen, Viditama, Christ, and all other Incarnations. You get connected to them. And that is how you achieve this power."
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"If any knowledge is coming from the West, we accept in India, isn't it? But if any knowledge is coming from India, why should anybody avoid it? Because it is for the benevolence of people. It has nothing to do with outside religions. It is something inner uh knowledge that was there.
Also we had lots of people, like Lao Tze, uh-uh-uh like Zen system, we had people also in England, like uh-uh-uh ... William Blake. So many of them had talked about this Inner Knowledge. And they were all Saints.
I was surprised that in Colombia, they had the knowledge of Kuṇḍalinī. And they used to make ornaments like Kuṇḍalinī.
So if you open your eyes and open your heart, you'll find: everywhere there was this knowledge about the ascent of man."
1994-0711 Public Program, The Inner Religion, Hôtel Concorde Lafayette (now Hyatt Regency Paris Étoile), Le Palais des Congrès, 7e Niveau, 2 Place de la Porte Maillot, Paris, France

"So, this is [has] come from ancient times.
And then this Buddha came in, but Zen was the most fundamental the same as Buddhist, I should say as Buddha taught of. Is very close to that.
Then we had in China Tao. Tao means actually Kuṇḍalinī. And it [Śhrī Lao Tze] compared the Kuṇḍalinī with Yangtze River, Yangtze River [unclear you can].
I went with My husband all that river [in 1984-10], because he was in the shipping so they said, "This is the most difficult river which one has to cross.""
1995-0301 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Zen System or Sahaja Yoga Is Also Zen, before the Public Program, Four Seasons Hotel, Tokyo, Japan

"It's not only that Indian Saints have talked about this, [but] also Tao, Tao of Lao Tze. Chinese know about it but they just don't know what to do. For Japanese, there was Zen who has also said the same thing.
I am not saying something new to you."
1995-0312 Public Program, Hall, Kolej Damanasara Utama University College, Petaling Jaya (15 kms W of Kuala Lumpur), Malaysia

"Confucius has taught the humanity how we can improve our relations with other human beings. But Lao Tze in Chine has very beautifully described Tao, meaning the Kuṇḍalinī.
And I have had a voyage through the Yangtze River through which Lao Tze had gone many times. I know He was trying to show that river, which is the Kuṇḍalinī, is flowing towards the sea and one should not be tempted by the nature that is around. The nature around the Yangtze River is very, very beautiful, no doubt, but one has to go through the river. Also there are lots of currents which flow and can be quite dangerous and we need a good navigator who should take his ship across to the point where it is nearer the sea. At that stage it becomes very silent and extremely simple in its flow.
This country has been endowed with great philosophers, I would say the greatest was Lao Tze, because humanism was for the preparation of human beings for their ascent about which Lao Tze had spoken. But because of the subtle subject it was not described in such a clear-cut manner as I am talking to you."
1995-0913 Written (Prepared) Talk, On the Global Problems Facing Women, Inter-Regional Round Table, Fourth World Conference on Women: Action for Equality, Development and Peace, Guanjunyuan Hotel, Beijing, China

"In your country, you had very great philosophers once upon a time. Of course, you believe in humanism, uh ... but there was another great, great philosopher, who was called as Lao Tze, of a very high spirituality, like a Great Incarnation of a Master.
What He has written about, described about Yangtze River is very interesting. Because I went through [similing:] the Yangtze River Myself. And He calls it Tao, Tao: is actually mean... He is talking about Kuṇḍalinī. He was a poet, so, whatever He has described is uh rather subtle. And maybe, they must have thought that is better ah to understand other people than Ta... uh ... thun [than] Tao uh written by-ee Lao Tze. But all over the world, you will find it is Tao which people respect very much, and they r... right ... like to always interpret uh the meaning of the word Tao.
Really symbolically He has described that this River, Yangtze, is a difficult river to go through. And the surroundings, the banks of this river, are extremely beautiful.
You won't believe for twelve hours I was sitting outside watching the beauty of the banks. I've never seen such beautiful mountains, trees, and the whole movement of nature is like an artist painting something.
And all your paintings, most of them, I think are impressed by that kind of, you see, banks that I saw. Because I have studied your uh-uh-uh art and I felt that the way you have shown in your art, that is mostly the bank[s] of Yangtze River.
But the symbolic thing is this: that in the beginning it's a very difficult river, there're lots of currents, they form lots of circles, very heavy type, and is very difficult to climb. Till it ... it's for quite some time you have to pass very carefully. Just about few hours, when it reaches the sea, it becomes calm, absolutely calm.
In the same way, the Tao that He describes is, in the beginning, according to Him, is rather difficult. But when It reaches near the sea, It calms down.
It is a remarkable thing that: how He could see the Kuṇḍalinī so much well defined as this Yangtze River. It's [an] ex... extremely, very artistic, subtle idea. Shows what a poet He must have been, and the how highly developed sp... spiritually He was.
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I think, in this whole world, these days there are numberless people who are Seekers of Truth. Because normally we live in a relative world.
[Repeats for the translator:] Relative world.
We don't live in the Absolute World. Because of that, we have problems.
For example, one man thinks something is very good, he has a fixed idea's. Another man thinks that something else is good, and he has another fixed idea. But they are not satisfied, because they have to find out the Absolute Truth.
For that, in our whole creation through the evolutionary process, there's a built-in mechanism within us, which is the Ta-o. This, I think in those days it must have been hard to say something very openly, so He took this name Ta-o, and described the Yangtze River.
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Now the greatest thing about this is: that you become a Universal Being. Like a drop becomes the ocean.
Lao Tze described this. These ways He has described.
And I'm sure, that you all will achieve it and you'll grow into it and you will enjoy yourself."
1995-0913 Public Program, Function Room, Jingguang New World Hotel-Manfulou, 1 Chaoyangmen Outer St, Guomao, Chaoyang, Beijing, China

"They had two great philosophers, but the greatest was Lao Tze, who talked about Kuṇḍalinī, Realization, everything. Confucius talked about humanity. So they believe in Confucius because [it] suits communism."
1995-0919 Public Talk, International Scientific Conference 'Morality, Health and the World', Day 1, Session 1 (11:00 to 14:30), Part 1, Petrovskaya Academy of Sciences and Arts, Saint Petersburg, Russia

"Now this Power is nothing mysterious today, It's the Power that is to sprout for our last breakthrough of our evolution. After the human awareness we have to jump into a new awareness which is a complete understanding of ourselves.
This new awareness that has been talked about, told about by Zen system which you know that is followed very well in Japan, then also by Lao Tze in China, by so many people it has been talked about that, 'One has to become a person who is beyond the mind.' "
1996-0219 Public Address to Doctors, Inauguration, International Sahaja Yoga Research and Health Center, Plot No. 1, Sector 8, H.H. Śhrī Nirmalā Devī Mārg, C.B.D. Belapur, Navi Mumbai, Maharashtra, India

"Now this, special thing as called as Kuṇḍalinī, is not to be discarded because It's coming from India.
It has been described in every Scripture. Even in the Bible is described, that, "I'll appear before you like tongues of flames."
[Pointing to the Chakra Chart:] These are the tongues of flames you see, along the path of the Kuṇḍalinī.
Also Muhammad Sāhab has said very clearly, in His Qur'ān, that: "If you want to know God, you must know your Self."
Christ has said: "Know thy Self."
All of Them had said the same thing!
If you see Zen system, or Lao Tze, Confucius, any one of Them, They all said that, "Unless and until you-know ... you know your Self, you are not there. You have no identity."
1996-0304 Public Program, Convention Center, Darling Harbor, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

"In China we had Lao Tze, who talked of nothing but Sahaja Yoga. Also, in Japan we had Viditama, spoke about uh Zen, Zen system. All are just to make a human attention go beyond the mind. Beyond the mind is the reality."
1996-0306 Public Program, Shieh Chien Hall (at that time), Taipei City, Taiwan

"In the same way, we have this Kuṇḍalinī within us, which sprouts itself.
You should not be shocked. You are ps... if you are uh-ah-ha, I mean, people of the Chinese tradition, you should know what Tao has said. In Tao what, He had said, the Lao Tze, that: "This mind is a myth."
That means this mind is created out of our reaction through our conditionings or our ego. But there's no reality in it."
1996-0309 Public Program, Auditorium, Town Hall, Sha Tin (14 kms E of Hong Kong), China

"Now, you see, for this, best thing is to know about Ta-o, which is your speciality, spread is Chinese, in which He describes, you see. Tao, Lao Tze describes the journey through the River Yangtze.
I went Myself to see that [in 1984-10].
So He says on the side, or the banks, there are beautiful, very beautiful, mountains and beautiful trees and it's so beautiful that you feel like jumping out of the boat and going to the ... these gardens and to these mountains. But what your aim: is to go through this, Tao, means the Yangtze River, towards the river. So in the beginning, maybe there are some uh currents flowing, maybe you might lose faith in yourself. But by the time you reach near the sea, it becomes very silent, and you have to go to the sea, that's the point is.
So, you see, all these are there, these are just enticing. It's all right to see but it is nothing important. Because thse, all these will keep you on a mental level. You'll be always thinking, 'What is this vision? What is that?' There's nothing to be on the mental level: you have to beyond. All right? [Sips water.] If you don't see, you don't bother about it, they'll disappear."
1996-0310 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, before the Evening Program, Furama Hong Kong Hotel, 37 Dundas St, Mong Kok, Hong Kong, China

"Now this mind is a myth. If I tell you, you should not be shocked, though Lao Tze has said that, 'It's a myth.' It is!"
1996-0312 Public Program, Hall, Kolej Damanasara Utama University College, Petaling Jaya (15 kms W of Kuala Lumpur), Malaysia

"Like Lao Tze described that you are going through the Yangtze River, is beautiful, on the sides you see beautiful scenes. But you better be on the boat and reach the ocean."
1996-0321 Birthday Pūjā (Hindi + English), Mind is a Myth, Scouts Camp, New Delhi, India

"Buddhism also had two beautiful uh flowering: one was called as Zen system, and another in China was called, as Lao Tze has written, is His Tao. But when they took to the Sun side, the development started, I think, in a very imbalanced manner.
If you go to the right side too much, then, what happens: you become extremely hot tempered. You can become very aggressive. You can develop powers, of uh-uh-uh sort of destroying others, and be very powerful warriors and all that.
But it had a reaction. Because such people became emotionally dried out."
1996-0707 Public Program, National Palace of Culture (NDK), Boulevard Bulgaria, 1463 NDK, Sofia, Bulgaria

"So the approach is different.
In one way, if you start going through science, through this, through that, you cannot reach anywhere. And moreover, your growth is stunted.
So, what you have to do is to go to this knowledge through believing in what They have said. Whatever Christ has said you have to believe, whatever Muhammad has said you have to believe, whatever Guru Nāṇak has said you have to believe, whatever Gyānadeva has said you have to believe, Lao Tze you have to believe. Like that: because you are not of that spiritual level. So accept it."
1998-1216 Talk to Sahaja Yogis (Hindi + English + Hindi), Expression of Subtle Elements, before and during the Evening Program, Bharat Scouts Ground and Guides Marg, Nizamuddin, National Zoological Park, Sundar Nagar, New Delhi, India

"But, you see, it [The Chi] is, it has something to do with that, and that is what is our ego and superego.
The Chinese what they have written, it's correct.
But Chinese also don't know who is Lao Tze, can you imagine? Lao Tze is the man who talked about this thing, is the one who told them about Kuṇḍalinī, and they don't know who is Lao Tze.
Specially in America, I don't know what sort of Chinese live here. [Some soft laughter.]
It's such a Great Source of Knowledge, and what They have said is a perfect thing."
1999-0616 Public Program (also Follow On to Public Talk to VIPs), The Town Hall, 123 West and 43rd Street, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.

"In the center of these thoughts there is this, which is complete silence. When Kuṇḍalinī rises, She elongates those thoughts and the spaces in between and you become thoughtlessly aware.
Jung has thought about it. Jung has thought about thoughtless awareness. Lao Tze had talked. So many people have talked about thoughtless awareness where you don't think, just watch."
1999-0627 Press Conference with One Reporter for 'VisionTV' Channel and with Four Journalists for 'Common Ground Magazine', 'U Magazine', 'The Link Newspaper', and 'Vancouver Indian Community Press', Sutton Place Hotel, 845 Burrard Street, Vancouver, BC, Canada

"So, in every religion there have been enlightened people.
Among Buddhists also there has been a Viditama, Lao Tze, and many others, who have tt-talked about seeking, seeking the Truth."
1999-1225 Christmas Pūjā, Gaṇapatīpuḷe, Maharashtra, India

"It's absolutely in a very abstract manner that so many Saints had, Sufis had, that joy which cannot be explained, also the Zen had. All that what they talked about, they didn't do the Kuṇḍalinī awakening, that's the point is. They were all awakened people, wide awake, and they had a different life, and they have described it.
We just shriek them but we don't know how these people have lead that kind of a life.
But they are Saints, they are Sufis, and they are the people who have achieved this. Like Lao Tze had so, has described about it.
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Muhammad Sāhab has said it, in the Qur'ān, that: "Your hands will speak when there will be Resurrection."
I do not accept anybody who says, 'I am a Muslim,' and whose hands are not speaking.
That's the main things should happen to all of you.
Has ... Christ has talked about it, Muhammad Sāhab has talked about it, Lao Tze has talked about it, everybody has talked about it. But so far, nobody has felt it.
Now, all of you have felt, I really bow to you for that."
2000-0611 Public Program, Massey Theater, 735 Eight Avenue, New Westminster (21 kms SE from Vancouver), BC, Canada

"How do you know your Self? When this Kuṇḍalinī rises, She passes through six centers. She passes through six centers, and pierces through the, we call it seventh one, through the bra... fontanel-bone area, which is actualization. You can feel It on top of your head.
I mean, every Saint, every Sufi has talked about it, if you have read them. Lao Tze has talked about it. Everyone, Buddha has talked about it, that you have to have your Self-realization. Self-realization means knowing about your Self. All of them have said this!"
2000-0616 Public Program, Town Hall, 123 West and 43rd Street, Manhattan, New York City, NY, U.S.A.

"I hope you will understand, as a guru, what you have to do. As a guru, there are so many things, and a... as your character.
Yesterday, as they showed [in the drama] how Lao Tze has written about the masters, how they were above all, everything: above turmoil, above jealousies, above talking loose.
They are so great, they are the masters and they will be the masters, and you will be the'm gurus if you try to do that.
This is what you have to achieve. I know some have achieved it, but most of you have to achieve, with compassion and love."
2000-0723 Guru Pūjā, Śhraddhā, Hangar (now Nirmal Temple), Albera Ligure, Alessandria, Italy

"I'm surprised ... uh-uh-uh very little has been written so far, but I find Tao by Lao Tze.
I don't know if you have read the book of Lao Tze, uh about Ta-o, and meaning that what you are. Tao means what you are.
And He describes, very nicely, that when you are that what happens
Now the gap was: 'How to achieve that state?' How to reach that state was not given.
He only described people who were Ta-o, who were realized Souls, who were of what level [of] wonder. [Laughs.]
I was surprised that He never said about Kuṇḍalinī, but He talked about the River Yangtze. That it is Yangtze River. You see, in a symbolic way, He was more, a bit more poetic. But ultimately reaching the ocean, that river becomes the ocean. And then what are the qualities of the Ocean He described so beautifully."
2001-0320 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Birthday Felicitations, Nirmal Dham, Behind BSF Camp Chhawala, New Delhi, India

"Then we have also in Japan [China]: Ta-o. He talked about the All-pervading Power, which was Tao. And Lao Tze was the One who did ... He had described Saints, how the Saints are, how they behave, how they talk, what is their mannerism, everything.
But how you become a Saint, nobody said. I think, throughout, there has been no description: [of] how to make a person into a saintly personality."
2001-0506 Sahasrāra Pūjā, Hangar (now Nirmal Temple), Albera Ligure, Alessandria, Italy

"The Primordial Master was also born as Macchindranāth, and again as Zoroaster who was worshiped by the ancient Persians, and still revered by Parsis. Earlier He had taken birth as Abraham and later as Moses, the Fathers of Judaism. In China He was born as Confucius and as Lao Tze, and in Greece as Socrates. He took a very significant Incarnation as Muhammad Sāhib, the Messenger (Paigambar) and founder of Islam, whose daughter Fāṭimah was Sītā reborn, an Incarnation of Ādi Śhakti. She was the origin of the Shiya sect among the Muslims (in Indian dialect Sītā is called Shiya). Yet again He took birth as Guru Nāṇak, founder of the Sikh religion, whose sister was Nāṇakī (Jānakī, i.e., Sītā). Most recently He was born as Śhrī Sāī Bābā of Śhirḍī in the Indian State of Maharashtra where He died in 1918. Altogether there were ten major Avatāras of Dattātreya."
The Book of Ādi Śhakti, Chapter 2: Divine Incarnations – Ambassadors of God, Page 33

"Religious fundamentalism and fanaticism have already become a threat to World Peace. We had a discussion with some religious people in Italy and they refused to accept a religion which was global. They wanted to have exclusive religions. In this way they promote conflict between the followers of one religion and those of another. They believe that killing others in the name of religion is their duty. On the other hand all the great philosophers, Incarnations, Prophets and Sufis have never talked about any exclusive religion. Confucius first talked about humanity, but then came Tao of Lao Tze who tried to bring the subtle side of humanity. This Tao is something like the Kuṇḍalinī of Sahaja Yoga. I have traveled through the Yangtze River. This voyage on a boat gave me a unique experience and enabled me to understand Lao Tze very well. This river is a very dangerous one in the beginning for boats to pass through. There are lots of currents which flow in different directions. But along the side of this river there are beautiful manifestations of nature. The very steep, rising mountains that we see in the paintings of the Chinese are all to be seen there with rivers flowing between them. It is very beautiful to see the bank of the Yangtze River. As Lao Tze had said: "It may be very beautiful and attractive outside, but you should keep your mind inside and ply through the Yangtze River". This is very significant, but how many understand what He has said? How many have tried to follow Him? In China many people do not seem to care much for Lao Tze and His Tao, but there will come a time when they will realize that that is the subtle side of humanity."
1995-0929 Meta Modern Era, Chapter 8: World Peace

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